Template:Did you know nominations/Tuzex
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:18, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
| DYK toolbox |
|---|
Tuzex
[edit]... that Tuzex issued a shopping voucher of 71.5 crowns as well as 1, 5, 10, 20, 50 and 100 crowns...?Source "Odbûrní poukazy emisí 1959 a 1960 mûly sérii oznaãenou jedním velk˘m ãern˘m písmenem vyti‰tûn˘m souãasnû s ostatními texty. Sériové písmena vytváfiela postupnost koordinovanou s nominále – nejvy‰‰ímu nominále 100 TKãs odpovídá písmeno A, zatímco nejniωímu 0,50 TKãs písmeno G. Dodateãnû doplnûné nominále 71,50 TKãs mûlo pravdûpodobnû písmeno H. âíslovaní je ‰estimístné, ãervené, typu „Fojtá‰ek mal˘“ – typ 1 (odpovídá typu 2a, BAJER 2003)“".: Odběrní poukazy Tuzexu, by Šustek et al., 2005 page 15
5x expanded by Chemical Engineer (talk). Self-nominated at 09:33, 14 May 2018 (UTC).
Unfortunately this has to be a fail. First, the article was not created or expanded fivefold within the nomination period of 107 days before. Although the article was indeed expanded from the original, it was only at best a 2x expansion rather than the required 5x. In addition, the article is currently classified as a stub. Finally the hook does not meet our guidelines of being quirky or hooky. The work on the article is greatly appreciated, but unfortunately it does not meet the DYK requirements at this time. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:56, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
- I thought a denomination of 71.5 crowns was pretty quirky for what was effectively a form of money. Chemical Engineer (talk) 11:25, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Chemical Engineer, the article was 543 prose characters before you expanded it, and it is currently at 1526 prose characters. It needs to be 2715 prose characters in order to reach a 5x expansion. Articles are sometimes nominated on time yet fall short because they don't have a good way to count prose; if you think you can expand the article by another 1189 prose characters (a bit more than your initial expansion) over the next several days, the nomination could then continue, since at that length it would also no longer be a stub. Perhaps the hook would be more interesting if it specified the reason for the 71.5 crown voucher. Something along the lines of "that Tuzex, which did not accept Czech koruna for goods but would take shopping vouchers purchased with foreign currency only, issued 71.5 koruna vouchers in exchange for a US $10 bill?" (It definitely needs cleaning up, but at 189 characters it is below the max of 200.) Please let us know whether you wish to continue. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:47, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
- I did not know about the 5 times rule, or would have waited before making a nomination. However, I have been working on it since. If still valid. my suggestion would be "Did you know that Tuzex shopping vouchers were a parallel currency in Czechoslovakia, and included one of denomination 71.5 crowns." Chemical Engineer (talk) 18:40, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
New review needed now that the article is 3808 prose characters, well over the 2715 required to be a 5x expansion. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:16, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
While the article now meets the 5x expansion requirement, I'm still not keen on the voucher hook here. I suggest that a different hook be proposed here. For example, how about a hook involving this sentence? ("However, the fact that otherwise unavailable luxuries could be purchased led to an unofficial or 'gray' market (technically illegal but tolerated) buying Tuzex vouchers with Czechoslovak currency at a high premium"). It seems like Tuzex vouchers being unofficial parallel currency is itself pretty interesting, far more than the value of the vouchers themselves. Courtesy ping @BlueMoonset:. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:31, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
- Another interesting fact is "In 1988 the first payment card in Czechoslovakia was introduced to allow cashless purchases at Tuzex stores." Chemical Engineer (talk) 12:33, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Chemical Engineer: Personally I feel that it might be better to stick with a hook regarding the use of Tuzex as unofficial parallel currency given that even back in the 1980s, cashless payments were already relatively common in some countries. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:19, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
- Another interesting fact is "In 1988 the first payment card in Czechoslovakia was introduced to allow cashless purchases at Tuzex stores." Chemical Engineer (talk) 12:33, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
- It been several weeks since the last edits to the article, and it has been some time since the nominator has responded here. @Chemical Engineer:. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:10, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- There seemed to be no enthusiasm. I thought it was interesting, but would not push it if no-one else does. However, I think I made a significant improvement to the article. Chemical Engineer (talk) 10:23, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Chemical Engineer: As I mentioned before, the most interesting thing about Tuzex that I can see in the article is that it was used as an unofficial currency in Czechoslovakia; perhaps a hook about that could be worked on? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- Such as
- @Chemical Engineer: As I mentioned before, the most interesting thing about Tuzex that I can see in the article is that it was used as an unofficial currency in Czechoslovakia; perhaps a hook about that could be worked on? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
...that Tuzex shopping vouchers were a parallel currency to the official crowns in Czechoslovakia, and included a note of 71.5 crowns.Chemical Engineer (talk) 14:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- What about simply:
- ALT1
... that Tuzex shopping vouchers were used as unofficial parallel currency in Czechoslovakia? - Since I proposed the above hook, I'm requesting another review to provide input here. Pinging BlueMoonset. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:38, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
- ALT1
This nomination does not seem to have been reviewed in detail. The article is a fivefold expansion, is long enough and was nominated in time. The ALT1 hook is interesting and favoured for its brevity; the 71.5 crowns angle is too difficult to explain within the length of a 200 character hook. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:49, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, I came by to promote this, but I think we need some context here, like:
- ALT1a:
... that during the communist era, Tuzex shopping vouchers were used as an unofficial parallel currency in Czechoslovakia?Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- No strong opinion, but this could be shortened to:
- ALT1b... that Tuzex shopping vouchers were used as unofficial parallel currency in communist Czechoslovakia? Chemical Engineer (talk) 21:11, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- What about simply:
