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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:41, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

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Trout Inn, Lechlade

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The Trout Inn, Lechlade

Created by Rodw (talk). Self nominated at 17:20, 15 June 2014 (UTC).

  • New enough. Long enough. Image suitably licensed. QPQ review done. NPOV. Dup detector shows no unavoidable close paraphrasing or copyvios. Nearly all sources are available online. Rule 3 states, "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it, since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." So there should be a citation after the first sentence in "History" (same cite as after the second sentence). Yes, that is rather pedantic. Nice article, always good to see more coverage of our historic pubs. Edwardx (talk) 12:25, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Ref reused.— Rod talk 16:21, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks. Good to go. Edwardx (talk) 16:52, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't see the hook fact in the cited source. Also, you have enough information in the sources to make the Architecture section longer, as this is a building article. Yoninah (talk) 20:09, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: It's fine. It just was getting more detail from one source, while using another for the overall thread of the paragraph, and the sourcing got confused. I've made it explicit by citing both sources for the fact. Adam Cuerden (talk) 12:14, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
  • The part about being an almshouse is cited, but not the part about being a priory. Also, I don't think my comment about the expansion of the Architecture section was heard. Since this is an article about a building, it should have more architectural description, especially as more description is available in the sources. As it stands now, there is now a one-sentence paragraph under Architecture that doesn't have a cite. Yoninah (talk) 18:42, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
It was a priori a priory. EEng (talk) 02:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Sorry I've been sitting in a muddy field for a week with no internet access. I have now added a ref for the uncited sentence in the architecture section. If more is needed I will look at it after some sleep.— Rod talk 22:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Still no expansion of the Architecture section done, as was requested by Yoninah and is still needed. Rodw, please address this. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:53, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the heads up, I wasn't aware this was still an issue. The sources I've looked at (primarily the NHLE listing) have a bit about the windows but nothing much else on the architecture. I'm tempted to remove the sub heading and merge those two lines into history if the short para is the issue.— Rod talk 19:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I have some time; I'll give it a try. Yoninah (talk) 20:14, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Architectural description added to article. Since I did additional editing and added a ref, I'd appreciate another reviewer closing on this. I'd like to suggest this alt:
  • ALT1: ... that the Trout Inn, Lechlade (pictured) has evolved from a 13th-century almshouse to a priory to an inn to a pub? Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for all your work on this. My only possible issue with ALT1 is the imprecise definition of Inn and Pub - it is still called an Inn and offers accommodation.— Rod talk 21:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
  • ALT2 works for me. Lets see what another reviewer thinks.— Rod talk 21:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
  • I have struck the original hook because it appears that the consensus is for ALT2 (but please unstrike it if you still like it, because it is OK and sourced). Hook image is free and appears in article; article images are free (nice photos, Rod!) ALT2 is acceptable and hooky, and is supported by online citation #1. Positive elements of initial review of 19 June by Edwardx are taken on trust. Good to go with ALT2. --Storye book (talk) 14:26, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
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