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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 19:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Traveler's Rest (Lolo, Montana)

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• ... that Traveler's Rest (pictured) National Historic Landmark, which originally had incorrect boundaries, is the only place along the Lewis and Clark Trail where physical evidence of their presence has been found?

• Reviewed: Congo Serpent Eagle

Created/expanded by PumpkinSky (talk). Self nom at 17:33, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• Note: this is a 10.4x expansion, it was only 2 lines long when I started. PumpkinSky talk 17:36, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

• Let me understand the hook (who is "their"? a trail?), and I am not so interested in the boundaries, more where it is at all:

ALT1:... that the National Historic Landmark Traveler's Rest (pictured) near Lolo, Montana, a stop of the Lewis and Clark Expedition, is the only place along their Trail where physical evidence of their presence has been found? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

• Expansion verified, hook facts verified. Article is well-sourced, and I did not find evidence of plagiarism-like issues. Like Gerda Arendt, I am profoundly uninterested in the matter of boundaries. For a hook, I don't see reason to mention the landmark status, and I'm uncomfortable calling the Historic Trail "their trail". Suggested hook wording:

• ALT2 ... that Traveler's Rest (pictured) near Lolo, Montana, is the only place along the Lewis and Clark Trail where physical evidence of the Lewis and Clark Expedition has been found? --Orlady (talk) 05:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

• Much more elegant, but would you find a way not to repeat the names and mention the expedition first and then the derived trail? It's a long way into this hook (ALT2) to know the historic expedition, which is the most interesting part for me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:08, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

• The wording would be much easier if a source indicated that this is the only place on the expedition's route that has yielded physical evidence. Unfortunately, the source is explicit that it is the only place on the Lewis and Clark National Historic Trail (which is not their whole route -- and may not precisely follow their route) that has yielded such evidence. Accordingly, it is necessary to be explicit about the Trail. --Orlady (talk) 15:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

• ALT3 ... that Traveler's Rest (pictured) near Lolo, Montana, where the Lewis and Clark Expedition stopped, is the only place along the Historic Trail where evidence of their presence has been found? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2011 (UTC)