Template:Did you know nominations/Tibet-Nepal salt trade route
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 14:55, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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Tibet-Nepal salt trade route
1898 photo of Tibetan with yak and a sheep carrying a bag of salt
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that nomadic Tibetans would trade salt or rice at opposite ends of the Tibet-Nepal salt route as a means of survival?[1]
- Comment: Perhaps hold for November and Wikipedia Asian Month?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Slavic creation myths
Created by Evrik with the help of User:Cwmhiraeth). Self-nominated at 17:38, 23 September 2020 (UTC).
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1898 photo of Tibetan with yak and a sheep carrying a bag of salt
- Comment: I was thinking of reviewing this, but ended up expanding the article instead! I would like to suggest ALT1
- ALT1 ... that nomadic Tibetans used sheep (pictured) and goats to carry salt from Tibet to Nepal? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:44, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- ALT2
... that nomadic Tibetans (pictured) used sheep, goats, and yaks to carry salt from Tibet to Nepal? 
Article was new enough and long enough at the time of creation. No close paraphrasing was found, and a QPQ was provided. The article is generally well-sourced. The image is used inline and is suitable given its age, with the cropped version being preferred due to being clearer at the smaller size. In the case of ALT1, the main source is offline so I am assuming good source on its reliability, although goats are also mentioned in the Lonely Planet links (but not sheep). The LP source also mentions yaks, so it might be a good idea to include yaks in the hook as well. However, for the hook to be approved, the Phillips source needs to be duplicated after the sentence that goes sheep and goats carrying the rice, and yaks carrying their domestic belongings
, with the LP source perhaps also being duplicated there for good measure. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:04, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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- Thank you for the edits. However, reading through the article again, I realized that the article does not explicitly say that those animals were used to carry the salt itself (indeed, there are only mentions about them carrying rice and "domestic belongings"). As such, ALT2 may need to be reworded. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:02, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Forget ALt2 then ... --evrik (talk) 03:52, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if the original hook would be suitable either since as far as I can tell the word "survival" is not explicitly used anywhere in the article. ALT2 is still promising, it just needs a reword to better reflect the article wording. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:03, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- I dropped the word survival into the article. It's used in the NatGeo cite. Do we have to fix the sheep, goat, yak thing? --evrik (talk) 22:59, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- It could be kept but a reword is needed. The wording I was thinking of would go something like "that salt traders between Tibet and Nepal used sheep/goats/yaks" or wording to that effect. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:54, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- I dropped the word survival into the article. It's used in the NatGeo cite. Do we have to fix the sheep, goat, yak thing? --evrik (talk) 22:59, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if the original hook would be suitable either since as far as I can tell the word "survival" is not explicitly used anywhere in the article. ALT2 is still promising, it just needs a reword to better reflect the article wording. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:03, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Forget ALt2 then ... --evrik (talk) 03:52, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the edits. However, reading through the article again, I realized that the article does not explicitly say that those animals were used to carry the salt itself (indeed, there are only mentions about them carrying rice and "domestic belongings"). As such, ALT2 may need to be reworded. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:02, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- ALT3
... that salt traders between Tibet and Nepal used sheep, goats and yaks to carry goods and belongings?
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- Would that work? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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A new reviewer is needed to check ALT3. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:55, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that sheep (pictured) have traditionally been used to carry salt from Tibet to Nepal?
- I have struck ALT2 and find ALT3 unexciting, preferring ALT1 and ALT4, because I think the use of sheep for this purpose is very interesting. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:08, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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| General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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| Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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| Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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| Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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| QPQ: Done. |
Overall: 
This review is in respect of ALTs 1 and 4, and the cropped version of the picture. I have done a complete review so as to familiarise myself with the article and DYK situation. This is a fascinating insight into the area's history. Thank you for this. @Evrik: @Cwmhiraeth: It would help to shorten the cropped-image caption: something like "Tibetans and sheep with salt-bag (1898)"? Good to go. Storye book (talk) 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)