Template:Did you know nominations/Thus have I heard

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:24, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Thus have I heard

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Ānanda

... that most Buddhist discourses start with the words Thus have I heard, which are traditionally attributed to the attendant of the Buddha (pictured)?Source: "The 'I' in the phrase is generally assumed to refer to the Buddha’s attendant Ānanda, who recited the Sūtrapiṭaka at the first Buddhist council ... following the Buddha's Parinirvāṇa." (Buswell & Lopez 2013, Evaṃ mayā śrutaṃ)
- ALT1:... that most Buddhist discourses start with the words Thus have I heard, meant to indicate that the discourses were received from the Buddha himself? Source: "The standard way of introducing Buddhist sūtras. It serves to authenticate the subsequent teachings as coming from Śākyamuni Buddha's mouth." (Powers 2013, Evaṃ mayā śrutaṃ ekasmin samaye); Source 2: "In Sanskrit, 'thus have I heard,' the stock phrase that begins most sūtras, certifying that the teachings about to be recounted were heard from the mouth of the Buddha ..." (Buswell & Lopez 2013, Evaṃ mayā śrutaṃ)

Reviewed: Did you know nominations/Mirza Zulqarnain
Comment: All sources cited here are accessible. Image is for main hook only.

Created by Farang Rak Tham (talk). Self-nominated at 13:09, 23 November 2018 (UTC).

1. Interesting thoughts about language, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and a good illustration, but we need a pictured-clause in the hook, probably at the end.

Done.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 16:56, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

2. I prefer the original hook, - we don't have to say it all. - I wonder about the three dots, which don't appear in the article title, and would be wrong for the punctuation given first. Drop them? -

Done.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 16:56, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

3. Thoughts about the article, which don't hold up approval, just want to make you think. I believe that we should't say - as the introduction does - that "'Thus have I heard' is the first line of the standard introduction". The attendant didn's say it in English, and we could say something like "is a common translation of the standard introduction".

Doing...--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 16:56, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Done.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 17:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

4. I wonder how such as phrase should be rendered, italic or in quotation marks, - but it should be consistent. If italic (as at present, but why?), the article title should also be italic. -

I think it should be italic per MOS because we're talking about words. Not sure how to make a title italic, have to look that one up.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk)

Done.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 17:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

5. Check the article for repetition, such as "is meant".

Doing...--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 16:56, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Done.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 17:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

6. I had to read "were on a par with or superior than" twice. Is it my lack of English, or would commas help others also? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

An unusual expression, I'll fix that.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 16:56, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Done.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 17:33, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Long time no see, Frau Arendt! Good tips, i will work on them. I have numbered them for easy reference. I'll be back later.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 14:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, same, nice to see you and your work again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)