Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Henry Sparshott
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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet talk 04:05, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
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Thomas Henry Sparshott, Margaret Elwyn Sparshott
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Dame Margaret Sparshott
... that English missionary Reverend Thomas Sparshott co-wrote a book in Swahili, and his daughter Dame Margaret Sparshott (pictured) was responsible as matron for 22 hospitals in World War I?Source: T.H. Sparshott: A Bibliography of Congo Languages, p.72, Amazon. Anjili kwa Luka. Swaheli.M.E. Sparshott: Brockbank, William (1970). "Miss Sparshott 1907-1929". The History of Nursing at the M.R.I. Manchester, UK: Manchester University Press. p. 83. ISBN 0719012481.- ALT1: .. that English missionary Reverend Thomas Sparshott edited a book in Swahili, and his daughter Dame Margaret Sparshott (pictured) was responsible as matron for 22 hospitals in World War I? (Sources: as above)
- ALT2: .. that Dame Margaret Sparshott (pictured), daughter of missionary Reverend Thomas Sparshott, was responsible as matron for 22 hospitals in World War I? (Sources: as above)
- ALT3: .. that English missionary Reverend Thomas Sparshott edited the Gospel of Luke in Swahili, and his daughter Dame Margaret Sparshott (pictured) was responsible as matron for 22 hospitals in World War I? (Sources: as above)
Created by Storye book (talk). Self-nominated at 15:19, 11 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Thomas Henry Sparshott; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
- I wonder if it's a good idea to "marry" father and daughter in one hook, as there seems no common thing to be said about them. Today I have time only for one, taking the daughter.
Interesting article, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. ALT2 would work, just without bolding the father to whom we could do justice with his own hook, but in hers, I suggest to add some location. The image is licensed and a good illustration.- I wonder if the article could have a lead, and then chronology of her life? I am also not sure about the 22, because those seem to be "extra" to the primary position during that time. How about mentioning the flu pandemic in a hook?
- I may get to the father eventually. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:27, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- ALT2a: .. that Dame Margaret Sparshott (pictured), daughter of missionary Reverend Thomas Sparshott, was responsible as principal matron for 22 Manchester hospitals in World War I? (Sources: as above) 142 characters without counting "pictured" or Reverend Thomas Sparshott, counted as per guideline.:
- ALT4: .. that Dame Margaret Sparshott (pictured), daughter of missionary Reverend Thomas Sparshott, was responsible as principal matron for Manchester hospitals during the 1918–1920 flu pandemic? (Sources: as above) 149 characters, calculated as above.
- Re the "22": Thank you for the review. Dame Peggy was principal matron, with 22 matrons under her, and she was overseeing the running of the 22 hospitals all at the same time, during the war. This made it easier for the War Office to coordinate the treatment of hundreds, if not thousands, of war-wounded in one area, and to get feedback from someone who could oversee all of the Manchester area. There were plenty of other areas set up like that, e.g. Leeds.
- Re the double nom: The issue here is that I'm currently nominating two pairs of Sparshotts (the other two Sparshotts are naval officers - not related to Rev Tom and Dame Peggy). I am aware that our already-overworked promoters can't handle four separate Sparshott hooks too close together in time, so if I nominated them separately, that would be a nuisance to them. It is easier for everyone if I group them in pairs: a father/daughter set, and a brothers set. And no, I am not related to any of them - I just happened to find a rare name which has a number of notable people, and a good set of citations. From my own point of view, I'm putting them through in bunches in the hope of getting them all through in a reasonable time frame. Storye book (talk) 09:25, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Understand. Sorry I'm busy today, just needed a quick qpq. Patience please, then I'll also look at the father, - may be tomorrow, singing in the evening if crazy cold permits. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. Enjoy your performance. Storye book (talk) 19:19, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Understand. Sorry I'm busy today, just needed a quick qpq. Patience please, then I'll also look at the father, - may be tomorrow, singing in the evening if crazy cold permits. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Back. Both articles are approved, offline sources accepted AGF. My favourite hook is ALT2a, but the others are also acceptable. - In his article, I think you don't have to be specific about "his second wife" + name every time she is mentioned. The comments about the structure of her article still apply, but are not in the way of DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Thank you for the reviews. Storye book (talk) 16:17, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
