Template:Did you know nominations/The Sherlock Holmes

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The result was: rejected by Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:50, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

The Sherlock Holmes

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• ... that The Sherlock Holmes public house (pictured) in London contains the stuffed and mounted head of The Hound of the Baskervilles?

Created/expanded by Jack1956 (talk). Self nominated at 06:50, 5 June 2014 (UTC).

• QPQ: reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Janet Greig, Jane Stocks Greig Jack1956 (talk) 07:02, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

• Hi, I thought I'd help out with your reference formatting, and discovered that all your references are websites promoting the pub or restaurant. The article requires secondary references to prove notability. Yoninah (talk) 00:17, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• The Sherlock Holmes Society of London is not promoting the pub/restaurant but is an independent organisation which curates the collection and, because of its association with Holmes, held a lunch there. I have had a try at adding more general references and external links including from the Whitbread printed catalogue of 1957 and Harrison's 1972 book, if off-line cites are OK. I have also added a link to the British Pathé News site which filmed the pub after it opened. Jack1956 (talk) 07:14, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• Thank you, looks much better. Ready for review. Yoninah (talk) 09:52, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• The picture is also great. Adding it to the nomination. Yoninah (talk) 09:56, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• Has the article been expanded? 3619 characters now, 2210 on the 25 May, the last edit outside the 5 day limit. Thanks, Matty.007 18:05, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• After all that have I miscalculated on the dates? Jack1956 (talk) 19:13, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• Well, I would appreciate you looking over them. It may just be me gradually going insane... Thanks, Matty.007 19:16, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• I'm afraid I have by several days! Jack1956 (talk) 19:21, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• Ah, sorry, I think you misunderstood. I don't think the article has been 5* expanded. Thanks, Matty.007 19:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

• No, I started writing it from new on 25 May and nominated it for DYK on 5 June. It is not an expansion - I have written the whole thing. Jack1956 (talk) 19:32, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
  • Well, our guideline is 5 days give or take, but this is 12 days... Hmm. Can we give this much leeway? Thanks, Matty.007 19:36, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
    • It would be a shame as I have worked hard on this article. Jack1956 (talk) 10:50, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
      • What about the GA route? I have asked Crisco of his opinion. Thanks, Matty.007 10:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
        • I think twelve days is a bit too long, sorry. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:58, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
          • Sorry Jack, but my opinion was leaning towards this (12 days from an experienced DYKer), I checked with Crisco who also thought it was too long. No issue with coming back if article becomes a GA (within 5 days). Thanks, Matty.007 12:39, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
            • Ah, well - thanks for trying. I appreciate it. Jack1956 (talk) 14:58, 7 June 2014 (UTC)