Template:Did you know nominations/The Melrose Hotel

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The result was: rejected by ⇒T A P 17:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Withdrawn. ⇒T A P 17:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

The Melrose Hotel

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... that The Melrose Hotel in Washington, D.C. offers Al fresco dining facilities in the restaurant and bar?

ALT1:... that the small gym at the The Melrose Hotel in Washington, D.C. offers a full set of weights?
Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Luidia senegalensis
Comment: When reviewing, remove "in Washington, D.C." if you wish.

Created by Thine Antique Pen (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

New enough, but hardly long enough. I shortened the lead, which was nothing more than a repetition of the main section without citations. The length now barely tops 1500 characters. It also reads like a Michelin Guide review (actually, the only review that wasn't cited.) Isn't there anything notable to say about the place? No mentions in books or newspapers? I also assume that this is your fifth DYK nomination, so no QPQ is necessary. Yoninah (talk) 21:00, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

I think I'm reaching the 15—20 DYK nominations now. ⇒T A P 21:02, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

As Yoninah notes, this is based entirely on commercial travel site reviews, which are problematic, and two primary sources. The length now barely tops 1200 after redundancies and irrelevancies are removed, and the original hook fact is not fully supported in the sources. The ALT1 is not interesting and "full set" is vague. This nom has similar issues to several other recent hotel articles you've submitted, with not a notable independent secondary source to be seen. There was a discussion here on this topic: non-commercial secondary sources are the gold standard, and there aren't any for this article. The Kayak source has identical wording to the Expedia section of the Lonely Planet source. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)