Template:Did you know nominations/The Essex Gazette
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 20:38, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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The Essex Gazette
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- ... that The Essex Gazette was established in 1768 becoming Salem's first newspaper, used as a voice against British rule just before the American Revolution? Source: Tapley, 1927, p. 5; Thomas, 1874, 177; Buckingham, 1850 p. 217
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Juliet Rice Wichman
- Comment: Statements and sources supporting hook are found in the 1st and 6th paragraphs of the 'History' section.
There are a couple of long quotes in the article, resulting in similarities in the article and the sources.
Created by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 23 October 2022 (UTC).
Reviewing... Howard the Duck (talk) 02:42, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Howard the Duck: — QPQ completed. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:27, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- Article:
- Newness:
Created on October 16, nominated on October 23; was nominated within the 7 days of creation. - Length: 4,527 characters; more than long enough.
- Within policy: No glaring issues. Earwig flags this as "violation possible" with a 43.2% similarity but that's on the rather long quotation in the prose. I suppose that, it being similar, and the lengthy quote on the article, are both fine; the quotation helps in determining what the aims were.
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- Hook:
- Format Short and meets the formatting guidelines
- Content
The hook as nominated cites Tapley, 1927 p. 5; Thomas, 1874, p. 177; and Buckingham, 1850 p. 215. Tapley p. 5 and Thomas p. 177 are indeed used in the article, but are used to cite the first part of the hook, that it was indeed founded in 1768, but not the latter part "used as a voice against British rule just before the American Revolution", at least explicitly.Buckingham p. 215 was not used at all in the article. The article goes on it indeed being used for anti-British sentiment, but it didn't cite any of the three references stated in this nomination I suppose rewording this part of the hook in the first part of the history section works.
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- QPQ:
Done - Image: Is free, used in the article and surprisingly looks good at thumbnail size.
- QPQ:
I can sympathize with letting the reader understand that this was indeed a voice against the British in the exposition, but for DYK purposes it has to explicitly stated. Howard the Duck (talk) 00:09, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- Article:
- @Howard the Duck: — QPQ completed. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:27, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Howard the Duck: — Howard, thanks for your prompt and thorough review. Yes, Buckingham, p. '215', was a mistake, evidently a typo on my part, not even noted in the Citations section. The statement that supports the idea of "voice against British rule" is on p. 217. : "It (The Gazette) was well conducted, and ably supported the cause of the people against the unjust measures of the British Parliament." I edited the template to this effect. This should solve the discrepancy. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 01:37, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
FWIW, it being against the British was stated in the article, cited by ref #8, citing Buckingham, p. 216. Please use the exact same reference as used in the article itself, with mostly the same thought for the hook. This should be good to go. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Fixed — My mistake again. I had thought the wrong page number only occurred in the template. Will double check the rest of the article. Thanks again. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:12, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
