Template:Did you know nominations/The Coronation of Edward VII
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:52, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
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The Coronation of Edward VII
[edit]... that Georges Méliès filmed a reenactment of Edward VII's coronation more than a month before the real-life event actually took place?
- Reviewed: Locked twins
- Comment: It might be nice to run this DYK on August 9, the anniversary both of the actual coronation and of the premiere of the film.--Lemuellio (talk) 21:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
5x expanded by Lemuellio (talk). Self nominated at 17:39, 19 May 2014 (UTC).
- The QPQ submitted for this nomination is incomplete. Details that are supposed to be checked in a review can be found at DYK Reviewing guide. Yoninah (talk) 22:13, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- I doubt it makes sense for a reenactment to occur before the actual event. Maybe, um... a preenactment? EEng (talk) 23:04, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Needs a complete review. Lemuellio completed his QPQ obligation on 26 May. — Maile (talk) 00:05, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
- First of all thank you for this article - I enjoyed reading it, and the film is hilarious (sorry guys, British humour). New enough (for 18 May) and long enough. QPQ now OK. No problems with disambig links or with external links. No copyvio found in connection with citations given. Images in article are free. Neutral treatment of subject, and all fully cited. If the word "reenactment" were to be accepted to mean the making of the film, then the hook is accepted with offline citations #2 and #7 taken AGF. Issue: I agree with User:EEng's comment above, indicating a problem with the word reenactment. A film of an event produced before that event is not a reenactment, and it makes the original hook sound as if the film-maker intended to mislead the audience, which he did not. I think the alternative word "pre-enactment" would be misleading to the reader because it sounds like a rehearsal, so that it might be taken to mean that the real nobility, bishop and guests were filmed. I would suggest the word "simulation" because it does not mislead, and it is already used in the same context in the article. Summary: If you can provide an ALT1 identical to the original hook, but with "simulation" substituted for "reenactment", this nom will be good to go.--Storye book (talk) 12:08, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- I completely made up the word pre-enactment as a little joke but to my astonishment it turns out that that's exactly the word used in one of the sources [1]. Bow down and worship me! Not wanting to use my own neologism would have been my only hesitation -- I disagree that it implies a rehearsal, rather it conveys exactly the right notion. I therefore suggest:
ALT1 ... that Georges Méliès filmed a "pre-reenactment" of Edward VII's coronation more than a month before the actual event took place? (unsigned comment by EEng, 10 June)
- @ User:EEng: The word you made up is the same as the word in the source, but it is different from the word in ALT1. Typo? --Storye book (talk) 15:51, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oops.
- ALT2 ... that Georges Méliès filmed a "pre-enactment" of Edward VII's coronation more than a month before the actual event took place?
- EEng (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- OK, fair enough, ALT2 accepted with offline citations #2 and #7 accepted AGF. Good to go (at last!) --Storye book (talk) 16:18, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
- EEng (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2014 (UTC)