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The result was: promoted by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 13:03, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
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The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
[edit]... that Siegfried Kracauer described The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari as being a premonition to the rise of Adolf Hitler?
Improved to Good Article status by Hunter Kahn (talk). Nominated by Calvin999 (talk) at 20:24, 21 April 2015 (UTC).
- Recent GA (21st), long enough, neutral, no copyvio found via spot check (though most sources are offline), QPQ done but is insufficient—it needs to actually address the points of the DYK review or else it won't be promoted. This hook might be improved by explaining a little bit more what about the movie made it a premonition of Hitler. I don't think that would sacrifice any of its mystique. Article has a bunch of Harv errors (try User:Ucucha/HarvErrors). Hook has three immediate refs in article (3b) but all are offline, so I assume good faith. Hats off to the editors—nice work! Please ping me if I don't respond. czar ⨹ 03:15, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- Done a more thorough review. (Though I have seen hooks promoted with reviews consisting of "Passes all criteria, GTG"). Lol. Here is a revised hook:
... that Siegfried Kracauer described the 1920 German film The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari as being a premonition to the rise of Adolf Hitler due to its conformist and revolutionary themes?— ₳aron 07:44, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Hunter Kahn, can you confirm from the sources that the conformist/revolutionary description is a reference to the film's themes and not to the film being revolutionary within cinema itself? czar ⨹ 14:01, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes it refers to the themess. I do not necessarily believe the new alt hook is quite right, however, because I think Kracauer argues the movie started out revolutionary and became conformist, not that it was both simultaneously. Maybe something like the below hook instead? — Hunter Kahn 16:42, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Hunter Kahn, can you confirm from the sources that the conformist/revolutionary description is a reference to the film's themes and not to the film being revolutionary within cinema itself? czar ⨹ 14:01, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Siegfried Kracauer called the 1920 film The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari a premonition of the rise of Adolf Hitler because it spoke to a subconscious need in German society for a tyrant?
- ALT2 works for me. Checks out with text, but agf since the refs are offline. Please do fix the aforementioned Harv errors via that script when you have a chance. czar ⨹ 17:42, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
- I don't understand what the HARV errors are. — ₳aron 13:02, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- I fixed a few of those problems with these changes. Should be all OK now, but a second look wouldn't hurt. GermanJoe (talk) 15:45, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- all resolved, gtg czar ⨹ 15:55, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- I fixed a few of those problems with these changes. Should be all OK now, but a second look wouldn't hurt. GermanJoe (talk) 15:45, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- I don't understand what the HARV errors are. — ₳aron 13:02, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- ALT2 works for me. Checks out with text, but agf since the refs are offline. Please do fix the aforementioned Harv errors via that script when you have a chance. czar ⨹ 17:42, 22 April 2015 (UTC)