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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 03:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

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That's So Raven

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Improved to Good Article status by SatDis (talk). Nominated by I'ma editor2022 (talk) at 15:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC).

  • Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. I’m not sure why you made three hooks that say almost the exact thing instead of offering three different ones. They all look acceptable to me. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 23:01, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that That's So Raven was the first time an original Disney Channel series would exceed 3 seasons, the first to reach 100 episodes for syndication, and was called the "most succesful series"? Source text: "The announcement marked the first time an original Disney Channel series would surpass three seasons and the first to reach the milestone of 100 episodes for syndication....Ross called the program the network's 'most successful series'." Source: https://archive.ph/yd5UE and https://archive.ph/kIPCN .
    • ALT4: ... that That's So Raven was the first time an original Disney Channel series would exceed 3 seasons and the first to reach 100 episodes for syndication? Source text: "The announcement marked the first time an original Disney Channel series would surpass three seasons and the first to reach the milestone of 100 episodes for syndication." Source: https://archive.ph/yd5UE and https://archive.ph/kIPCN .

Improved to Good Article status by SatDis (talk). Nominated by I'ma editor2022 (talk) at 15:33, 19 February 2022 (UTC). <!-

    • Uh... I need to find a way to say this gently... HOW ARE THE HOOKS INTERESTING? Hey, I didn't say I found one. Um, so, yeah. What is interesting about a franchise selling all this stuff? Almost every single franchise would do this... I'm sure there are plenty of other hooks that can be supplied, given the article's length. OK, I'm gonna check back in the morning. Bye! ​​​Pamzeis (talk) 15:26, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
      • I agree. The hooks aren’t very interesting or unique to this program. Thriley (talk) 19:47, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
        • @Pamzeis: @Thriley: OK, after looking over the article, I think both of you are right, so I found a more "interesting" one. Would you like me too change it? —Remember, I'murmate — I'ma editor2022 (🗣️💬 |📖📚) 23:14, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
          • Sure. Just enter it below my comment. Thriley (talk) 23:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
            • I'ma editor2022? Pamzeis (talk) 02:32, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
              • @Pamzeis: and @Thriley: Sorry for not responding to both your comments. It appears that I ddin't get a notification when you responded, and I've been quite busy, so you may want to ping me when responding. But ok, i'll put in the new hook today. —Remember, I'murmate — I'ma editor2022 (🗣️💬 |📖📚) 20:24, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
                • @Thriley:: Would you approve of the DYK?
  • @I'ma editor2022: New hooks with a different hook fact (i.e. not about merch) are still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:07, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
    • @Narutolovehinata5: I did add another hook. For clarification (because it probably looks messy), here is the new text.
      • Yeah, but they obviously all refer to the same stuff, there's no real difference between "fragrance" and "perfume" or to say that the franchise "sold" xyz and that its merchandise "included" xyz. We're looking for a new hook altogether, i.e. one that doesn't involve merch (and as I'm typing this I realise Naruto has basically said the same thing, so this thread is probably a metaphor for the hooks......) ALTs are supposed to point to substantially different facts from the article, I think. Kingoflettuce (talk) 02:22, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
  • Since the nomination has been stuck for a while and no new hooks about other facts have been proposed, I'm taking a stab at suggesting a few new ones:
ALT5: ... that Raven-Symoné originally played the best friend in the pilot for That's So Raven, but the series was re-tooled to star her following positive reception from test audiences and producers?
ALT6: ... that when Raven-Symoné played the lead role in the series That's So Raven, she was reported to be Disney's first female African American star?
ALT7: ... that Raven-Symoné, who played the lead role in the series That's So Raven, became a producer for its fourth season at the age of 19?
There's probably more hook ideas in the article (and I think there could be a better way to reword ALT4), but after a quick look at the article, these caught my attention. Courtesy ping to reviewers/commenters @Thriley, Pamzeis, and Kingoflettuce: and nominator I'ma editor2022. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
    • @Kingoflettuce: @Narutolovehinata5: @Thriley: @Pamzeis:: It seems like I may have made an mistake. I incorrectly labeled them as Alt 3 and Alt 4, as it appears. I have now labelled the actual new DYK. If there appears to be a problem whith the new one pls let me know! I'm also sorry for the confusion! —Remember, I'murmate — I'ma editor2022 (🗣️💬 |📖📚) 14:18, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
      • I'ma editor2022, I've removed your old and new headers, since they completely confuse things on the main nominations page, where this is transcluded, and also made things confusing here. We like to keep all hooks (and their original labels) for historical purposes. I've restored the original ALT3 and ALT4 labels to your new hooks, and renumbered Narutolovehinata5's hooks from ALT4 through ALT6 to ALT5 through ALT7, since you'd already created an ALT4 and it would be confusing to have two different hooks with that label. I did strike the original three hooks to reflect that they're no longer under consideration. Hopefully, one of the reviewers will soon return to check on the five new hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:39, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
        • @BlueMoonset:: Sorry for the headers, I forgot that this page was transcluded to other pages, and thank you for crossing the "old" DYK hooks and restructuring the alternative hooks. — I'ma editor2022 (🗣️💬 |📖📚) 19:13, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
          • Probably Alt 7 for me, but I'll let the original reviewer decide, I was just passing by. Kingoflettuce (talk) 10:50, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

I think ALT 5,6, and 7 look good. Good work everyone! Thriley (talk) 00:23, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

ALT7 to T:DYK/P2
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