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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 11:57, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Texas gubernatorial election, 1998

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5x expanded by 12george1 (talk) at 02:16, 10 May 2013 (UTC).

  • The hook is factually incorrect. GW Bush was elected in two consecutive elections, but he only served Jan 1995 to Dec 2000, resigning to run for President. John Connally also was elected in two consecutive elections, and served longer than Bush. Allan Shivers actually served longer as Governor than either Connally or Bush, July 11, 1949 – January 15, 1957. But in the case of Shivers, his first term was when as elected Lieutenant Governor of Texas, he assumed the governorship six months into that upon the in-office death of Governor Beauford Jester. (Governors of Texas)— Maile (talk) 00:17, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Maybe I could say the "first person elected to serve two consecutive four-year terms...", as four-year terms did not begin until the election in 1974?--12george1 (talk) 00:23, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
  • That's probably more accurate. But since you did this as a 5X expansion instead of writing it from scratch, I'd advise running Duplication detector on each reference in there. (Duplicator Detector seems to be down at the moment) That particular phrase you propose using for the hook, while sourced and in the article, is almost identical to the wording in the source. If that one is, perhaps there are other copyvios or close paraphrasing that happened before your expansion. Good luck. — Maile (talk) 00:40, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
  • I ran Earwig @ Toolserver, and it cites numerous copyvio problems. However, if I am reading this correctly, what it is saying is the source is actually a Site that is merely a link to the Wikipedia article. Other eyes probably should weigh in on this. — Maile (talk) 21:12, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Earwig reveals no copyvio, adequate size etc. however, I am concerned about POV problems. Use of the word "landslide" is not sourced. Furthermore, the background is focussed entirely on the republican side of the story. "As a result of these accomplishments" may be sourced, but it doesn't actually say that, and the wording could be more neutral. What was the approval rating of GB at the start of his term as governor?--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 14:42, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
  • There has been no action by the nominator of this article in over 25 days. This needs a new, complete hook, which can then be reviewed in the normal way; at the moment, with the first hook ruled inaccurate, there is no hook here. ("Maybe I could say" does not a hook make.) BlueMoonset (talk) 23:41, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Alt1 ... that George W. Bush became the first person elected to two consecutive four-year terms as Governor of Texas following the gubernatorial election in 1998? --12george1 (talk) 18:22, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Revising my thought above that this would be "probably more accurate". It needs to be stated and sourced within the article precisely when Texas changed to 4-year terms on the governorship. Just saying it did isn't accurate enough for the main page. For all the reasons I originally stated on the original hook. He was not the first governor of Texas to be re-elected, and certainly served fewer years than previous governors, so the date Texas changed the terms needs accuracy. GW Bush was elected and re-elected "to serve", but he didn't actually serve the second term. He quit to run for President. Given the high visibility on the main page, it's probably not a good idea for DYK to be perceived as revising political history. — Maile (talk) 12:21, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I fixed sourcing for the 4-year terms. It was implemented starting in 1974, according to the Texas Constitution.--12george1 (talk) 14:24, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Well done in that sourcing, the Texas Constitution! — Maile (talk) 15:12, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
  • This review still needs to be concluded. Hoping to get a reviewer who's willing to complete the job. (Note: I would also advise dropping the word "serve" from the hook as it gives the impression that the time was served when it wasn't.) BlueMoonset (talk) 21:55, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
I removed the word "serve", just so it doesn't accidentally get promoted with that in it. — Maile (talk) 22:53, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
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