Template:Did you know nominations/Texas Centennial half dollar
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The result was: promoted by Hey man im josh talk 22:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Texas Centennial half dollar
... that when sales slowed on the Texas Centennial half dollar, Senator Tom Connally suggested minting 15 separate versions every year?
- Source: Commemorative Coins of the United States, p. 269 https://archive.org/details/commemcoins1991bowe
5x expanded by Generalissima (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC).
"the whole history of Texas and all its leading personages in a perfect hodgepodge", so true! Article is x5 expanded and long enough. It appears well-sourced, although I seemingly do not have access to many of the sources. QPQ done. As for plagiarism, none found so far. I do have access to one of the two sources used for the hook paragraph (second paragraph of Production and distribution). A couple of points due to this. Firstly, Senator Connally only raised five versions, it becomes 15 only because of nerds and mintmarks and the source does not state that Connally was aware of this (indeed the source is a second-hand account from Connally's secretary). The article also says that Senator Alva B. Adams opposed the bill, but this opposition is not explicit in the source (although Adams is clearly fully up on his coin knowledge). May work through some other paragraphs later, focused on this as it is the sole proposed hook.As a separate note regarding the mintage table, the way the Assay coins are positioned implies they are included in the net calculations, but they do not seem to be. Also unsure what common practice is in these articles at the moment, but if the coins were intended to be non-circulating this should be stated explicitly, especially in the modern era when there are actually five (mintmarked up to 10) commemorative circulating quarters each year. CMD (talk) 02:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Thank you so much for such a thorough review! I intend to bring this to GAN pretty soon, and you've already done half my work for me. I made some fixes, esp. to emphasize that it wasn't a circulating coin. Would adding an "inadvertently" between suggested and minting work for the hook? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the fixes. I'm really not in favor of trying to find a technical way to get Senator Connally on record for something he didn't say, and I don't think it's more hooky at any rate. Just "five separate versions to increase sales" conveys the intention of the hook. CMD (talk) 02:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's fair enough. So just this is a-ok? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the fixes. I'm really not in favor of trying to find a technical way to get Senator Connally on record for something he didn't say, and I don't think it's more hooky at any rate. Just "five separate versions to increase sales" conveys the intention of the hook. CMD (talk) 02:53, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Thank you so much for such a thorough review! I intend to bring this to GAN pretty soon, and you've already done half my work for me. I made some fixes, esp. to emphasize that it wasn't a circulating coin. Would adding an "inadvertently" between suggested and minting work for the hook? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: that when sales slowed on the Texas Centennial half dollar, Senator Tom Connally suggested minting 5 separate versions every year?- I'm not sold on "every year", for similar reasons as above. Decided to spot-check the other uses of Bowers as I have access. Not sure what it is being used for in the second paragraph of Inception. Its use in the first sentence of Production and distribution supports part of the sentence, based on the presence of the second source I assume the rest comes from that, and the use checks out without found plagiarism for the rest of that paragraph. All other uses check out. CMD (talk) 03:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: Following up here, aiming to get a hook that won't get sent to ERRORS, which has been more stringent over the past couple of weeks. CMD (talk) 13:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: Oops, completely forgot about this until now. I guess just, "...that when sales slowed on the Texas Centennial half dollar, Senator Tom Connally suggested minting 5 separate versions?" Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 07:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: Following up here, aiming to get a hook that won't get sent to ERRORS, which has been more stringent over the past couple of weeks. CMD (talk) 13:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sold on "every year", for similar reasons as above. Decided to spot-check the other uses of Bowers as I have access. Not sure what it is being used for in the second paragraph of Inception. Its use in the first sentence of Production and distribution supports part of the sentence, based on the presence of the second source I assume the rest comes from that, and the use checks out without found plagiarism for the rest of that paragraph. All other uses check out. CMD (talk) 03:49, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Works, I note there has been further improvement on the article as well. Good luck with GAN.
- ALT2 ...that when sales slowed on the Texas Centennial half dollar, Senator Tom Connally suggested minting 5 separate versions?
CMD (talk) 08:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
