Template:Did you know nominations/Temulji Bhicaji Nariman
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:18, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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Temulji Bhicaji Nariman
[edit]... that in 1887, Temulji Bhicaji Nariman co-founded one of Mumbai's first Parsi Lying-in hospitals?[1]
- Reviewed: Melvin Cohn
Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Self-nominated at 18:07, 5 November 2018 (UTC).
Interesting life on good sources, no copyvio. The hook is fine, but I wonder if the 25.000 maternity case would be even more interesting. A few questions for the article: I don't think we can say he was from Mumbai if it was Bombay when he was born. I'd clarify in the first sentence, from then on you are rather free. In the hook, I'd use Bombay, to be historically correct, or say "first ... in today's Mumbai". - Consider to specify a location to the building images, - yes, it was said higher up, but I forgot, and others might feel the same. - Can you perhaps get the impressive number of maternity cases to where the clinis is mentioned? - Another task: can you clean up the university article where he studied (even if not directly linked from the Main page), - make tagfree, I mean? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you @Gerda Arendt:. I'll check over Mumbai. Yes...25,000 is impressive but the lying in hospital is his most notable achievement. I was hoping it could have an article too. Does @Philafrenzy: have an opinion? I will check the links too. Thanks for all your effort. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:50, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Started. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you but I confess I turn to your articles when I have little time because the are solidly made and require NO effort. Thank you, both. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- I am not keen on the 25,000. It may be true and he had a long career but it's sourced to comments he made in a speech at a dinner and is a very round number. Did he personally attend 25,000? There's no independent corroborating source. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:36, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Accepted. Perhaps say that more clearly in the article? - What about Mumbay clarification? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Done. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Accepted. Perhaps say that more clearly in the article? - What about Mumbay clarification? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- I am not keen on the 25,000. It may be true and he had a long career but it's sourced to comments he made in a speech at a dinner and is a very round number. Did he personally attend 25,000? There's no independent corroborating source. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:36, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you @Gerda Arendt:. I'll check over Mumbai. Yes...25,000 is impressive but the lying in hospital is his most notable achievement. I was hoping it could have an article too. Does @Philafrenzy: have an opinion? I will check the links too. Thanks for all your effort. Whispyhistory (talk) 16:50, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you @Philafrenzy: and @Gerda Arendt:. His university article looks complex to fix for me.Whispyhistory (talk) 08:51, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- You don't need to make that a Good article, just tag-free, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- I assume you refer to University of Mumbai. I did a little but we can't expect nominators here to rewrite large articles like that to get a DYK nom through. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:45, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- You don't need to make that a Good article, just tag-free, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- I assumed Grant Medical College. Whispyhistory (talk) 09:50, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Same thing applies. Get one right at a time (this one). Philafrenzy (talk) 10:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Particularly since neither are linked in the hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:22, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Please distinguish what needs to be done to make me approve this (get Mumbai historically correct) and what would be helpful to our readers on DYK day (link to articles that don't carry major maintenance tags). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Mumbai/Bombay has been done. I am not aware of any rule that all linked articles have to be improved to remove tags, that would be an impossible task in many cases. It might be different if they are linked from the hook, which they aren't in this case. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:53, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Now the article says Bombay and the hook says Mumbai. Should we link in the article and/or hook? I would not link Berlin (capital), but Düsseldorf (state capital), - no idea though if it compares. - One more time: mentioning the ugly tag on his college article follows no rule but is a suggestion to increase the reading pleasure. Here's my version, approved, but I am open for suggestions (and please add the locatipon to the caption of his college).
- ALT1: ... that in 1887, Temulji Bhicaji Nariman co-founded one the first Parsi Lying-in hospitals in Bombay?
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:23, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Mumbai/Bombay has been done. I am not aware of any rule that all linked articles have to be improved to remove tags, that would be an impossible task in many cases. It might be different if they are linked from the hook, which they aren't in this case. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:53, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Please distinguish what needs to be done to make me approve this (get Mumbai historically correct) and what would be helpful to our readers on DYK day (link to articles that don't carry major maintenance tags). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Particularly since neither are linked in the hook. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:22, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
- Same thing applies. Get one right at a time (this one). Philafrenzy (talk) 10:18, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
