Template:Did you know nominations/Team Sone Pet
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 21:54, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
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Team Sone Pet
[edit]- ... that Team Sone Pet's second team vanished?
- ALT1:... that the second Team Sone Pet vanished?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Principiala
- Comment: In an obscure corner of the world, an espionage team intrudes into enemy territory and vanishes. What happened to them? Why were they even there? Although their objective was secretive and highly classified, there are intriguing hints available.Georgejdorner (talk) 01:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
Created by Georgejdorner (talk). Self nominated at 01:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC).
- Interesting! The article is long enough and new enough. Only thing is, I can't verify the source. The book is listed in Google books, but I can't preview the cited page. So while this looks good to me, I'd like a second opinion. (I'm also new at reviewing and rather wimpy about approving things, sorry.) --Rosekelleher (talk) 15:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- No problem. Better a cautious and fair review than a mistaken one.Georgejdorner (talk) 17:27, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: The Look inside feature in Amazon.com often gives access to relevant pages in printed source materials. If any doubts cannot be satisfied by that method, then I can prove the veracity of any given point by quoting the source material. Obviously, that can't be done for the article in its entirety.Georgejdorner (talk) 18:53, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- @Georgejdorner:, Sorry for making you jump through hoops like this - not sure what the usual protocol is. I tried searching "Look Inside" on Amazon but couldn't get to page 179, couldn't find "Team Sone Pet" or "second team" either. Same with Google Books. I'm sure it's just me doing something wrong. Would you mind providing a quote from the book? --Rosekelleher (talk) 22:20, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
- You might have had better luck using the search term "Diamond Arrow". At any rate, here goes (Conboy, Morrison, p. 179):
- "In the late fall of 1967, Luang Prabang launched a single reconnaissance mission along the Chinese border when Team Sone Pet (Diamond Arrow), composed of seven Khamouane Boupha ralliers and a FAR team leader, parachuted from an RLAF C-47 along the northernmost Lao border near the village of Malitaio. On the ground for more than two months, the team was exfiltrated by an RLAF H-34 after contact with communist patrols. The mission, though done with CIA cooperation, was a joint venture between Ouane Rathikoun and his military contacts in the ROC.
- "The following spring, Ouane and the ROC collaborated on a second reconnaissance mission near Malitiao. This time the team was made up entirely of Nationalist Chinese flown in from Taiwan. Shortly after infiltration, contact was lost and the team was considered captured or killed."Georgejdorner (talk) 01:56, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Full review needed. Original review covered length and newness but couldn't verify sourcing; new review should cover sourcing check all the other DYK criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:43, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- Using the quote I was able to search the text on Amazon for "captured or killed" and verify the hook, thanks. So: (1) long enough, (2) new enough (when submitted), (3) cited, (4) neutral, (5) free of copyvio, based on a reasonable amount of checking, and (6) etc. --Rosekelleher (talk) 20:05, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
