Template:Did you know nominations/Sybil Milton
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The result was: rejected by RoySmith (talk) 01:42, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
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Sybil Milton
- ... that historian Sybil Milton represented the United States on the Bergier commission, which examined assets moved to Switzerland during World War II, including Nazi gold? Source: "At the time of her death, Dr. Milton was vice president of the Swiss-appointed Independent Commission of Experts, which was investigating Swiss policies toward Jews and Nazis during the Holocaust.
Last December, the commission issued a report condemning Switzerland's restrictive policies toward Jewish immigration during the war years when European Jews were seeking refuge from Nazi genocide.
Dr. Milton, who represented the United States on the commission, studied Swiss banks and the Nazi handling of Jewish-owned assets, precious metals and works of art." The New York Times
Moved to mainspace by Thriley (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 11 September 2022 (UTC).
Interesting life, on few but good sources, no copvio obvious. In the hook, I believe you could as well say Bergier commission, but if piped it would be "independent commission of experts". I think that's clear from the context. I copy-edited a bit, please check edit summaries for explanations and raise questions here. I removed the tag because there's less in German. How about a bit more lead, and an infobox? Waiting for a qpq. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 13 September 2022 (UTC)- waiting --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review. I will work on the article over the next day or so. Best, Thriley (talk) 14:46, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
- Thriley, it's been over two and a half weeks; please address the issues in the next few days. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:40, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review. I will work on the article over the next day or so. Best, Thriley (talk) 14:46, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: I have tended to the issues. Thank you for your help! Thriley (talk) 03:40, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. I believe that adding education, husband and awards to the infobox would clarify at a glance what kind of historian she was. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerda Arendt (talk • contribs) 06:48, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Thriley and Gerda Arendt: I wanted to promote and noticed that the hook and article text currently don't align perfectly:
Sybil Milton represented the United States on the Bergier commission, which examined assets moved to Switzerland during World War II, including Nazi gold
says the hook, whereas the article readsMilton was vice president of the Independent Commission of Experts, which examined Swiss policies toward the Nazis and Jews during the Holocaust. Milton herself studied the relationship between Swiss banks and Jewish assets held by the Nazis such as artworks and precious metals.
- The latter text obviously implies that she dealt with assets moved to Switzerland, but never explicitly says anything about any moving of assets (for example, she could, theoretically, have found that Swiss banks had send Jewish assets out of Switzerland). Can this be recitified please? –LordPeterII (talk) 18:29, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
@LordPeterII: Thank you for catching that. I’ll take care of it later today. Thriley (talk) 20:23, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thriley I think we're still waiting on this, or did it get done and I'm just not seeing it? -- RoySmith (talk) 23:36, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
@RoySmith: Will get to it! Sorry for the delay. Thriley (talk) 00:12, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
ALT1 “that historian Sybil Milton represented the United States on the Bergier commission, which examined the relationship between Swiss banks and Jewish assets seized by the Nazis?” I know the source says held, but Jewish assets “held” by the Nazis were certainly seized, if not stolen. I want this to be clear. Thriley (talk) 01:57, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm in no way suggesting that the Nazi's didn't sieze Jewish assets, but that's not what the source says. The NY Times article says, "handling of Jewish-owned assets". You and I may know that means "seized, if not stolen", but we still need a source that says that. This is such a well documented piece of history that surely there's some WP:RS you can find which says that directly? -- RoySmith (talk) 17:37, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thriley There's issues here which need to be resolved. Could you please address them soon? This has been in process for almost 2 months now; if it can't be brought to a state where it can be promoted in the next week, I'm afraid we'll need to close this as rejected. -- RoySmith (talk) 18:01, 9 November 2022 (UTC)