Template:Did you know nominations/Sushil Siddharth

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The result was: promoted by Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:32, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Sushil Siddharth

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~~... that a fellow writer said that satire was oxygen of Sushil Siddharth's life?~~ Source: "सुशील हमारे बीच असंतोष छोड़ गए..." Hindustan (in Hindi). Lucknow. 19 March 2018.

Reviewed: A Voz do Brasil
Comment: Also nominated for RD. Let's see what happens.

5x expanded by Skr15081997 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:30, 21 March 2018 (UTC).

The article is new and the topic interesting, and as far as I can discern it is not plagiarized; QPQ done and appears quite thorough and competent. However, the article needs copyediting for grammar: a necessary "the" is frequently dropped, the word order is strange at times (as in: "he and Ram Bahadur Mishra edited and published a quarterly Birwa dedicated to Awadhi language"), he died of "an heart attack", etc.; the style is also inconsistent, as italics are and aren't used for paper and journal titles; also, does one really use "served" to denote "worked for a magazine"? Other issues: what does "academic criticism" mean in this context? what are Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman? must we have one-line sections (that are actually frowned upon by our Manual of Style), or could we possibly merge his career into one section? in "Maitreyi Pushpa was of the view that his talent could not be used correctly", what does "correctly" mean to say? The hook is also terribly not interesting, but rather the kind of generic polite stuff with a slight metaphorical twist that a writer would say about another, deceased, writer; I would think there's more potential of creating a hook from Maitreyi Pushpa's views, though I'm not sure I understand what she means, and the article would need to elaborate on that tidbit (an exact, lengthier quote from Pushpa?). Also note that the hook is ungrammatical: "satire was oxygen of" is incorrect; either use "was the oxygen" or go with the phrasing actually in the article -- "was oxygen in". Please consider this as purely constructive criticism, Dahn (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

The Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman are literary awards. Rajkamal Prakashan and Kitabghar Prakashan are book publishing houses, so I haven't italicised their names. --Skr15081997 (talk) 14:18, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Well yes, but you should specify that in the article -- you could name the institutions not immediately apparent to clarify that they're publishing houses, and you could indicate who awards the Spandan Samman and Madhuban Vyanga Shri Samman (non-Indians and even some Indians presumably are left clueless as to what these things mean). Still waiting on grammatical corrections and clarifications of meaning, as well as the hook issue. Dahn (talk) 17:40, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that a fellow writer said that satire was the oxygen in Sushil Siddharth's life?

ALT2: ... that according to novelist Maitreyi Pushpa, publishers for whom Sushil Siddharth worked took advantage of his financial condition?

Dahn, I have improved and copy-edited the article. Pushpa's statement has been expanded in the article and here are two alt hooks. --Skr15081997 (talk) 06:31, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

First of, allow me to thank you, Skr15081997, for taking my suggestions into account, and for addressing virtually all my concerns. I still have trouble understanding Pushpa's point, mainly because of the "could" used in rendering it: does she mean that he never found a proper venue for his work? as in: that there was a fairer use of his talents out there, but that he was prevented from finding it? or does she mean that there was no way in which he could have ever succeeded, at all? (I took the liberty of tweaking your ALTs, hopefully an unobjectionable edit.) Dahn (talk) 20:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Dahn, Maitreyi Pushpa agrees that Siddharth was a talented writer and would have achieved a big name in Hindi literature but the circumstances didn't let that happen. He stayed away from family, was known for being a straightforward person and wouldn't do anything just to appease someone. --Skr15081997 (talk) 07:09, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Fixes addressed all the issues, hooks AGFed, ALT2 preferred. Skr15081997, please review my recent copyedits and see if there's anything I botched. Regards, Dahn (talk) 07:25, 9 May 2018 (UTC)