Template:Did you know nominations/Sunshine Hotel

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:00, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Sunshine Hotel

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~~... that a cubicle room at the Sunshine Hotel cost about $10 a night and featured a bed, locker, light-bulb, and chicken-wire ceiling?~~

ALT1:... that a cubicle room at the Sunshine Hotel cost about $10 a night, measured 4 ft × 6 ft × 7 ft (1.2 m × 1.8 m × 2.1 m), and had a bed, locker, light-bulb, and chicken-wire ceiling?
Reviewed: Petite messe solennelle

Created by FallingGravity (talk). Self-nominated at 18:40, 18 June 2016 (UTC).

Article is new and long enough. It is interesting, neutral, well-written and cited throughout. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports only 1.0 to 5.7% copyvio rates, which is acceptable. I prefer hook AKT1. It is interesting. Its length is within limit, and its fact is accurate and cited inline. QPQ was done. Everything is fine. Good to go. (Comment: An image would enrich the article and the hook.) CeeGee 07:03, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Hook is misleading without a date, should say "cost $10 a night in 1998" (and omit the word "about" since that figure is exact). I also would not recommend using the lengthy and obtrusive and repetitive dimensions of ALT1 unless it is trimmed and squeezed to "4x6x7 ft" (skip the conversion – it's just too obtrusive any way you type it in my opinion). Softlavender (talk) 07:07, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

The thing with the cost is that it is not an exact figure. I know a couple sources that state the price was in a certain range (something like $4.50 to $15.00), and I figured the $10 was average (hence the word about). I suppose this is what the article should say, but I'll look into it later today. FallingGravity (talk) 14:10, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

@Softlavender: I wonder what has prevented you from proposing another hook in conformity with your above issues. Because, then it would be much easier to re-approve. CeeGee 18:51, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Already did so, CeeGee, which the nominator incorporated in their ALT2 below. Softlavender (talk) 05:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

So the source I was looking at was this NY Times book review, which talks about the price range for all 8 flophouses that were on the Bowery at that time. I am currently waiting to get a look at the book that the NY Times reviews, which might provide some more insights on the hotel's fees. I should get it some time this week. In the mean time here are some more alt hooks:

ALT2:... that a cubicle room at the Sunshine Hotel cost $10 a night in 1998 and featured a bed, locker, light-bulb, and chicken-wire ceiling?
ALT3:... that a cubicle room at the Sunshine Hotel cost $10 a night in 1998, measured 4 ft × 6 ft × 7 ft, and had a bed, locker, light-bulb, and chicken-wire ceiling?

Update: I've gotten a hold of the book Flophouse: Life on the Bowery and it doesn't mention the price rates for the Sunshine,, so the best sources we have say $10 a night. FallingGravity (talk) 03:28, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

I personally agree with ALT2. I don't agree with ALT3 for legibility reasons indicated above. See my ALT4 below. Softlavender (talk) 05:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

ALT4:... that a cubicle room at the Sunshine Hotel cost $10 a night in 1998, measured 4×6×7 feet, and featured a bed, locker, light-bulb, and chicken-wire ceiling?

I re-approve ALT4. Good to go finally. CeeGee 05:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)