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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Intelligentsium 20:19, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Stop!! Hibari-kun!

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Improved to Good Article status by Juhachi (talk). Nominated by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) at 04:02, 4 May 2016 (UTC).


I have no idea if ALT1 is appropriate for a DYK hook, so preferably the first mentioned hook should be used if this is to pass. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:02, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

    • As the editor who improved the article to GA, might I suggest an alternative hook:

-- 04:20, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

@Juhachi: Sure. I was actually thinking of adding a third hook involving Eguchi and him staying in a hotel room before the serialization was abandoned, but I think that hook would have possible BLP implications. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:46, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Well, that story about the hotel came from Eguchi himself, if that means anything. He's quoted in the source: "都内のホテルに潜伏して、全てが終わったのを確認して出ていった。"-- 05:06, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that Hisashi Eguchi, author of the manga Stop!! Hibari-kun!, locked himself in a hotel room, forcing the manga's editors to publish an incomplete final chapter?
@Juhachi: What about this? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:21, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
That's not what happened. He fled to the hotel after he submitted the incomplete manuscript. It was only after that that the editorial department allowed him to abandon the series. It's not like this was his first run-in with the editors. Eguchi was notorious for drawing the chapters slowly, and he took many long breaks during Hibari-kun's serialization. All of it just seemed to have come to a head with the final chapter being submitted roughly half-finished. Manga authors have to run their storyboards by their editors before they go to actually drawing a chapter, so they would have been aware that the last five pages from the storyboard were not submitted. Then Eguchi went to a hotel, essentially forcing the editors to just go with what they had, so they printed the incomplete chapter in the magazine.-- 05:51, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
"locked himself in a hotel room, forcing the manga's editors to publish an incomplete final chapter" is also not exactly what happened, going by what Eguchi said himself. I assume he forced the editors to publish the incomplete chapter going by what he said, but he was still pretty vague on the details. I think we should just forget about the hotel story as a hook.-- 10:45, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

If this nomination goes through, I would also like to propose that this be moved to the special occasion holding area for the date of May 20, the 33-year anniversary of the premiere of the anime's first episode.-- 07:29, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

  • Why not something taken directly from the text like: "ALT4: ... that serialization of manga Stop!! Hibari-kun! was abandoned after author Hisashi Eguchi locked himself in a hotel room?" The whole fiasco with the hotel is really interesting (like a hook should be) and it'll be a shame to not use it imo. Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 02:08, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
    • Maybe if it was like:
    • ALT5: ... that Hisashi Eguchi abandoned the serialization of his manga Stop!! Hibari-kun! after he fled to a hotel room?
    • Eguchi said he "fled", not that he locked himself in. It's probably just that he didn't tell anyone where he was, so they couldn't find him, is all. But I'll add it to the top as the third alt.-- 03:57, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that one's really good, thanks Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 07:25, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I'd like to help get this nomination moving so it can be promoted to the queue in time for May 20. Nominated for DYK on same day as the GA icon was received. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. As most refs are foreign-language or offline, unable to check for close paraphrasing. ALT5 seems to be the preferred choice; offline and foreign-language hook refs AGF and cited inline. QPQ done. ALT5 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:23, 18 May 2016 (UTC)