Template:Did you know nominations/Stikine River

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 17:26, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Stikine River

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"Grand Canyon" section of the Stikine River

• ... that navigation on parts of the Stikine River (pictured) was once reserved for the Stikine people during summer, and the Tahltan during winter? Source: Tahltan Ethnoarchaeology http://archpress.lib.sfu.ca/index.php/archpress/catalog/book/61
  • ALT1: ... that according to Tlingit legend, the Stikine River (pictured) once flowed through a tunnel under a glacier? Source: Haa Shuká, Our Ancestors. Tlingit Oral Narratives https://tlingitlanguage.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Dauenhauer-1987-Haa-Shuk%c3%a1.pdf
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Adriana Salvatierra
  • Comment: An alternative picture could be File:Stikine Delta.jpg, but it's less exciting imo.

Improved to Good Article status by Shannon1 (talk). Nominated by LordPeterII (talk) at 20:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC).

Substantial GA, on plenty of excellent sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I like the original hook slightly better, for it's mentioning of the peoples. The image is licensed and spectacular. This article looks like a potential FA to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:20, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

• @LordPeterII: could you please provide me with the relevant quote citation for ALT1? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her)
  • @Theleekycauldron: Ah, it's actually primarily in the other source, this one: According to these legends, Great Glacier once spanned the entire width of the lower Stikine River on page 1. Combine that with At one place, there, in the river, the river flowed under a glacier from the other source and it should give ALT1. But maybe ALT0 is actually more interesting, since it's not merely a legend. –LordPeterII (talk) 16:15, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
    • @LordPeterII: hmm, then I think calling it a "tunnel" might be a little synth-y. ALT0 doesn't quite grab me – maybe it would if it mentioned a timeframe (to make it clear that it's an agreement thing, not a legal thing), but I'm not a huge fan, to be honest. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:25, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Theleekycauldron: Well, then you have poor taste! (trying to be more confrontational :P) However, how about these modifications:

• ALT0a: ... that the Stikine and Tahltan once agreed that navigation on parts of the Stikine River (pictured) was reserved for the former during summer, and for the latter during winter?
• ALT1a: ... that according to Tlingit legend, the Stikine River (pictured) once flowed under a glacier?

Can't exactly mention a timeframe other than "before Europeans" since I didn't see precise dates in the sources. ALT0a might make it clearer, although it's now a bit long. But if not, there's ALT1a. –LordPeterII (talk) 21:53, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@LordPeterII: ha! I can approve ALT1a :) As for ALT0a, did the Tlingit have exclusive use of that part of the river during summer, or were they just the only ones to make that trip? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:59, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Hmm idk... and frankly, ALT1a isn't bad, and less convoluted :) Let's just go with that one. –LordPeterII (talk) 22:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)