Template:Did you know nominations/Stefan Baretzki
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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:34, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
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Stefan Baretzki
[edit]- ... that despite participating in the murder of more than 8,000 people, Stefan Baretzki testified against his former superiors at the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials?
- ALT1:... that despite participating in the murder of more than 8,000 people, Auschwitz guard Stefan Baretzki hoped that the Holocaust would never be repeated? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- ALT2:... that the notoriously brutal SS guard Stefan Baretzki testified against his former superiors at the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials?
- ALT3:... that Auschwitz guard Stefan Baretzki accused Franz Lucas of presenting himself as a savior despite having selected thousands of people to die? Source: "Ich bin doch nicht blind gewesen, als der Dr. Lucas auf der Rampe selektiert hat. … Fünftausend Mann, die hat er in einer halben Stunde ins Gas geschickt, und heute will er sich als Retter hinstellen" ("I was not blind when Dr. Lucas made selections on the ramp... Five thousand men he sent to their deaths in half an hour, and today he wants to stand as a savior")[1]
- ALT4:... that despite his notorious brutality, Auschwitz guard Stefan Baretzki tried to save children in the Theresienstadt family camp?
- ALT5:... that, because the court described him as a "simpleton", Stefan Baretzki's admission that he knew the Holocaust was a crime was used to convict other defendants at the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials?
- ALT6:... that in press coverage of the Frankfurt Auschwitz trials, Stefan Baretzki's gruesome murders obscured the fact that all guards were voluntary participants in genocide?
- ALT7:... that notoriously brutal Auschwitz guard Stefan Baretzki was from the same town as a guard who helped a prisoner escape?
- Reviewed: Timeline of Cluj-Napoca
- Comment: Baretzki was convicted of participating in the murder of at least 8,250 people, plus committing five other murders at his own initiative; however, he probably committed more murders than this. Other crops of the above images possible. The image helped to convict him, and are therefore particularly relevant to include.
Created by Catrìona (talk). Self-nominated at 08:13, 26 September 2018 (UTC).
- QPQ done. New, very well written, no close paraphrasing; sources checked for all hooks, personally prefer ALT 1, ALT 5, or ALT 7. ALT 1 needs some rephrasing, as it takes a guess with numbers -- a good guess, probably, but still; I propose using "over 8,000 people" or such. One other issue is with the image, which has no license for being copyright-free in the US, which I believe is requirted for mainpage. Another issue is that the place and full date of his death are not cited (if you do add citations, please do so in the text, rather than the infobox). This article is nearly perfect as is, and sorry to be nitpicking. Dahn (talk) 04:39, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Dahn: I would not have described the article in such glowing terms, but thank you! I've now added citations for date and place of death in the text. According to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, an American organization, the image is in the public domain.[2] According to Commons:Anonymous works#United States, the work would probably be considered public domain in the US because it was published before 1989[3] (according to USHMM it was on page 35 of this publication) without a copyright notice. According to the Prague Jewish museum source, the image was entered into evidence against Baretzki at his trial (1963), which might count as publication. I'm not sure what US PD tag to use; unfortunately, copyright is not my strong point. Changed ALT1 per suggestion. Catrìona (talk) 06:12, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- @Catrìona: I'm also unsure about tags, but that is not say the image is copyrighted -- my comment merely noted that a(nother) tag is apparently needed. I'll get baclk on this later today. Dahn (talk) 06:18, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay. I've now added tags per your explanation. All other issues fixed, article is good to go. Dahn (talk) 03:49, 9 October 2018 (UTC)