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Round symbols for illustrating comments about the DYK nomination The following is an archived discussion of Smile mask syndrome's DYK nomination. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page; such as this archived nomination"s (talk) page, the nominated article's (talk) page, or the Did you knowDYK comment symbol (talk) page. Unless there is consensus to re-open the archived discussion here. No further edits should be made to this page. See the talk page guidelines for (more) information.

The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 22:45, 30 March 2013 (UTC).

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Smile mask syndrome

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  • ... that smile mask syndrome may affect people whose jobs force them to smile for many hours per day and is particularly common in Japan and Korea?

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nominated at 03:09, 28 February 2013 (UTC).

  • :REVIEW COMPLETED - The following has been checked in this review by Maile
  • QPQ by Piotrus February 28, 2013
  • Article created by Piotrus on February 27, 2013 and has 1,887 characters of readable prose
  • NPOV
  • Hook is interesting, short enough at 143 characters and sourced with Refs 1 and 3
  • AGF on offline sourcing with Ref 3
  • Every paragraph sourced
  • Earwig @ Toolserver Copyvio Detector found no copyvio
GOOD 2 GO
This is funny! True, but funny. — Maile (talk) 15:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Promotion reversed per discussion at WT:DYK#Smile mask syndrome. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:26, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
    I'm the one who triggered the promotion reversal, so I thought I should probably leave a comment here on my reasons. When I first raised the issue at that discussion, I was concerned that this article might not pass WP:GNG. However, after another look at the sources, I am satisfied that these three[1][2][3] would allow it to squeak past the notability test. I was also concerned that the article might be too quick to associate the syndrome described by Natsume with the smile training that Japanese companies have introduced recently. However, from the third of those links, it looks like it is Natsume himself who has drawn these parallels, not the journalist reporting on the general phenomenon, so I see this as a lot less problematic now. However, to fully satisfy WP:NPOV, I think that the article should emphasise the fact that this is Natsume's theory and not a widely accepted psychological theory. Also, I think that it should emphasise that the syndrome almost exclusively affects women, as the current wording is a bit vague about this. I have to go now, but I might try and work these changes into the article tomorrow when I have a bit more time. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:33, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank you for the comments. I would certainly appreciate it if you could rewrite the article per your suggestions; while I could to so, a second pair of eyes working on the article would be quite helpful in correcting any issues that might have been introduced by my me that led to your initial concerns. Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Ok, I have (finally) edited the article so I am happy with it, and Piotrus and I have worked out our disagreements on the talk page. I thought I might want to change the hook, but looking at it again, it seems fine. So, it gets a "good to go" from me, although it could probably do with another reviewer. — Mr. Stradivarius on tour ♪ talk ♪ 05:04, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Calling for new reviewer to check revised article. BlueMoonset (talk) 12:46, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I could not confirm the part about Korea since the link in the 4th ref is broken or bad, but I'm assuming good faith. Otherwise everything checks out as noted above by the first reviewer. – Maky « talk » 02:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
It is available through the link, but they've hidden it behind php and the format is a Windows binary executable e-book, which doesn't make for straightforward downloads. To actually download it, click on "2012" and then click the image button under issue 316 that includes the text "e-book". And if you don't run Windows, you're out of luck... — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:09, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Doing that takes me here (maybe a better link?), but still nothing comes up, even after I enable Javascript. I also run Windows. Regardless, it's fine under AGF. – Maky « talk » 04:24, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
I get that page if I click the button with the red button on the left - clicking the button with the blue icon on the right gets me a link to the ebook. I had a bit of a fiddle around, and I think this might work as a link directly to the download. Not sure if it's automatically generated each time though. But yes, in any case, I have seen the source and can vouch that it backs up what is claimed in the article. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 04:32, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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