Template:Did you know nominations/Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
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Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks
[edit]... that the two-hander play Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks is the most successful in the 58-year history of the Ensemble Theatre, and was star Todd McKenney's first non-musical role?
Converted from a redirect by EdChem (talk). Self-nominated at 16:06, 29 September 2016 (UTC).
- Sources: Most successful play in theatre's 58-year history: Hook, Chris (3 February 2016). "Ten years later, McKenney and Hayes bring Six Dance Lessons play back for another spin on stage". Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 27 September 2016.
- Todd McKenney's first non-musical role: Huntsdale, Justin (17 February 2016). "Theatre legends Todd McKenney and Nancye Hayes unite for heart-warming play". ABC News. Retrieved 29 September 2016.
I'm so glad to see theater articles up for DYK! Let's see...new enough (September 29), long enough (3,644 characters), neutral, great use of citations throughout, no close paraphrasing or copyvio detected, hook is long but not too long, interesting, not negative towards living people, and the two facts in the hook are brought up in the sources. QPQ done, no image. Okay, now here are two questions:
- While cited in the Telegraph article, "most successful" is an awfully vague term unless it means something specific in the world of theater. Whoever promotes the hook may object the vagueness in which case I just want to know if you'd be alright with just a the second part of the present hook going up, about it being McKennedy's non-musical role?
- I did not know the term two-hander. In order to make this hook as accessible as possible, do you think changing it to "two-character" would be better?
- @EdChem: that's all from me! (Also, I liked "musical" in the hook.) Let me know on the above so we can get this promoted! Best, BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 14:57, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- @Bobamnertiopsis: Thanks for your review. I agree that "most successful" is a vague term, but the solution IMO is to put in quotation marks so it is the newspaper's view and not in WP voice. I think it is a stronger hook with both facts, as Todd's first non-musical role might only interest those who know of him, but first non-musical role and most successful play for a company operating nearly 60 years (and at 8 - 10 plays per year for as long as I remember), that is unusual. Changing [[two-hander]] to [[two-hander|two-character]] seems wise to me, otherwise people may be distracted from the bolded link, so I'll add an ALT1 and strike the original. I would appreciate holding off on a tick, however, as there are some great pictures of the actual performance on Todd's webpage and I am trying to get one for use on wiki for his article and the play's. EdChem (talk) 05:04, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
- (ALT1): ...
that the two-character play Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks is the "most successful" in the 58-year history of the Ensemble Theatre, and was star Todd McKenney's first non-musical role?
- PS: If an image of Todd and Nancye Hayes performing the play becomes available, I will propose an ALT along the lines of "... that Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks is the most "successful play" in the Ensemble Theatre's 58-year history, and was star Todd McKenney's first non-musical role (pictured dancing with Nancye Hayes)?" Hoping to hear back from Todd or his representatives soon. EdChem (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
ALT1 is good to go but hold until EdChem gets back on potentially tracking down images. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 02:05, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you, Bobamnertiopsis. I have been provided with suitable photos but I need to guide the provider through the OTRS system to provide evidence that they are being provided under a suitable free license, which will also need word from the photographer. Looking good, though. :) EdChem (talk) 12:37, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
- The request for upload of images with proper license from the copyright holder is in the OTRS queue, and the status of the photographer is resolved. Now just depends on how long the OTRS queue is. EdChem (talk) 00:14, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- PS: If an image of Todd and Nancye Hayes performing the play becomes available, I will propose an ALT along the lines of "... that Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks is the most "successful play" in the Ensemble Theatre's 58-year history, and was star Todd McKenney's first non-musical role (pictured dancing with Nancye Hayes)?" Hoping to hear back from Todd or his representatives soon. EdChem (talk) 05:31, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
@Bobamnertiopsis: We now have four images to choose between, which are:
Images available for the Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks DYK
from the 2016 Ensemble Theatre production at the Concourse Theatre, Chatswood
photos by Clare Hawley
from the 2016 Ensemble Theatre production at the Concourse Theatre, Chatswood
photos by Clare Hawley
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Dancing together -
Dancing together -
Dancing together -
Acting during the play
I would not be inclined to use the fourth image, but it is available. If you choose which you think is best, I'll propose an ALT hook with it and we can move this nomination on. :) The images are freely licensed (CC-BY-SA 4.0, confirmed by OTRS) so we can do a crop if necessary. Thanks. EdChem (talk) 22:04, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
- I'm partial to the third one because it's very clearly the couple dancing (like the title of the play, do you get it???) and the colors are fairly unique to DYK. That said, go with whatever you like best. Once it's added to the article, I can approve the hook! Best, BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 00:49, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
- Addendum: I see you've added them all to the article. Fab! Just pick your favorite and we shoud be good to go! BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 00:52, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
- (ALT2): ... that Six Dance Lessons in Six Weeks is the "most successful" play in the Ensemble Theatre's 58-year history, and was star Todd McKenney's first non-musical role (pictured waltzing with Nancye Hayes)?
- Offering ALT2 with the image, as promised. I've struck the image-free ALT1. I agree that your image choice, Bobamnertiopsis. EdChem (talk) 05:37, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
- Looks good! Hook is ~161 characters, plus the pictured bit. Really neat image that would be great to have on the main page! Best, BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 04:14, 4 November 2016 (UTC)