Template:Did you know nominations/Sibu
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 19:25, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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Sibu
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Wharf terminal at Sibu
... that Wong Nai Siong brought his Foochow clansmen to Sibu (pictured, a town in Malaysia) in 1901 due to ongoing Boxer Rebellion in China?
- ALT1:... that the tallest building in Sarawak Wisma Sanyan is located in Sibu (pictured)?
- ALT2:... that Sibu (pictured) is the home to several multinational logging corporations such as Rimbunan Hijau?
- ALT3:... that according to one theory, Sibu (pictured) is named the Swan City because swans supposedly flew over the city after a famine?
- ALT4:... that according to one theory, Sibu (pictured) is named the Swan City because the word sago, a staple food of the Melanau people, resembles the Hokkien pronunciation of swan?
- Comment: Hook No. 1 taken from subsection "Chinese Foochow settlement". Hook No. 2 taken from the last paragraph of lead section. Hook No. 3 taken from the "Economy" section.
- Reviewed: American game show winnings records
Improved to Good Article status by Cerevisae (talk). Self-nominated at 10:07, 16 July 2015 (UTC).
- The article is cited, neutral, and was promoted to GA status three days ago. AGF on offline and non-English sources. The second hook is more interesting than the other two, but all three hooks are a little dry. I'm also not sure about the reliability of the source for the first hook. Even though it's hosted on a university website, the source looks like a college essay written by a student (if it isn't, please correct me!). One possible alternative is to have a hook about the origins of the city's nickname, which I found very interesting: ALT 3:... that according to one theory, Sibu (pictured) is named the Swan City because swans supposedly flew over the city after a famine? or ALT 4:... that according to one theory, Sibu (pictured) is named the Swan City because the word sago, a staple food of the Melanau people, resembles the Hokkien pronunciation of swan? --Khanate General ☪ talk project mongol conquests 18:08, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Khanate General: Yes, I agreed with you about the source hosted on the university website that it is seems to be written by a student. However, it has the most complete description about Foochow migration to Sibu. Anyways, I have added another more reliable citation about the Foochow migration. I would much prefer ALT 4 for the hook of this article. Regards.Cerevisae (talk) 22:51, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Independent reviewer needed for newly proposed hooks, and also to check on issues not touched on in the earlier review, such as the image criteria, and the close paraphrasing/copyvio (as a minimum, a spot-check of sources or a check with Copyvio detector of the article should be done). Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:43, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
- ALT1's reference cited inline does not discuss the tallest building, so is not sourced (Lanang Bridge is mentioned, but I didn't see reference to the tallest building Wisma Sanyan); ALT2 has inline citations but isn't as interesting as some of the other proposed hooks; ALT3's link to the source was broken when I tried it (404 error); ALT4 links to the same source as ALT3, so could not be verified. I also did a copyvio check and the percent was high (87.9% for one of the articles and over 50% on some of the other articles according to Earwig's Copyvio Detector). A lot of the overlaps were names of places (which would be fine), but there was some common phrasing used that seemed a little greyer to me. I'd like someone to double check the questions of copyright, as I'm fairly new to reviewing and don't want to hold things up if what I'm seeing is actually OK. Most of the images are in Creative Commons, with one fair use, and a few public domain. SojoQ (talk) 11:21, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
- @SojoQ: Thanks for your input. Specific references added for ALT 1, ALT3, and ALT 4. Regarding the plagiarism checker, these are mostly overlaps of names and common English phrases with the sources. Therefore, I think that the check is false positive.Cerevisae (talk) 12:37, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
