Template:Did you know nominations/Shirley Pitts

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:16, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Shirley Pitts

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• ... that Shirley Pitts was the "Queen of shoplifters"?
  • ALT1:... that Shirley Pitts was trained by the Forty Elephants and became the "Queen of shoplifters"?

• Reviewed: To be done. Donated Template:Did you know nominations/El Castillo del Terror (2000, 2002)‎

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Self-nominated at 11:48, 11 September 2017 (UTC).

• Review New enough. Long enough. Timely nominated. Earwig is clear. Free of suspected close paraphrasing or copyright issues. Hook is neutral and supported by WP:RSs that are in line citations. All paragraphs cited. Of course, she wasn't literally "Queen" of anything but the sources did call her that. One could weasel-word the hook to say "was called..." etc., but that doesn't make the hook more interesting or hookier. While I believe that she is within WP:GNG, so WP:Deletion ain't appropriate, I find the article (and particularly the subject) to be barely encyclopedic and boring. Apparently her nationally reported obituaries must have occurred on a 'slow news' day. But for the "queen of shoplifters" sobriquet and the geographic breadth of her shoplifting, there is nothing remotely interesting here.

I've represented many of her ilk, and this is totally unremarkable. As I once told a client who was charged with the felony Larceny in a Building (which prosecutors typically only use on repeat offenders) (who was then arrested three more times in various jurisdictions during a three month period as her pending case was wending through the courts—Attorney: "You need to get another job. You are not very good at what you do. You get caught – a lot." To which she replied, Client: "No I don't.") So it all depends on your perspective.

Nevertheless, with the exception of the missing QPQ, this is over the low bar for a DYK. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

FYI, There is also a need to clarify at least a couple of points in this article. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:53, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Added an Alt. The sources actually use the term Forty Thieves but perhaps we can stretch a point to use Forty Elephants as that is probably more intriguing. QPQ next. As far as I can see there are no outstanding matters in the article. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:28, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

• Review 'ALT1 is hooky,interesting, and neutral. It is supported by in line/on line cited wP:RS. QPQ taken care of. GTG. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 20:47, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

User:GRuban is claiming that there the hook is not in the article (it is) and that it is unreferenced (it isn't). They posted on DYK talk page, and said they were going to "main page errors." Which he did. I responded there. This will put the claim squarely at issue. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:24, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

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