Template:Did you know nominations/Seyyed Abdollah Behbahani
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:46, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
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Seyyed Abdollah Behbahani
[edit]- ... that Seyyed Abdollah Behbahani, a Shia theologian and leader of the constitutional movement, was assassinated in Iran and buried in Najaf, Iraq? Source: ʿABDALLĀH BEHBAHĀNĪ
Created by Saff V. (talk). Nominated by Mhhossein (talk) at 18:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC).
This article is in substantial need of copyediting. I started to work on it but decided that the prose and concepts were too difficult for me to untangle. Someone with knowledge of the subject matter might do better. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Cwmhiraeth: The article is done by Saff V. and I tried to make some changes in the past. If you're going to edit the article, I think I can help you with prose and the concepts! --Mhhossein talk 11:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- OK, I will have a go, but some of the sentences are too difficult to understand, for example " On the other hand when Mozaffar ad-Din Shah Qajar came back to Iran, during some adventures dissatisfaction of people and scholar were increased about government, finally by dismissal of Ein al-Dowleh, Shah issued a constitutional order."
I will list any such incomprehensible sentence on the article talk page.Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
- OK, I will have a go, but some of the sentences are too difficult to understand, for example " On the other hand when Mozaffar ad-Din Shah Qajar came back to Iran, during some adventures dissatisfaction of people and scholar were increased about government, finally by dismissal of Ein al-Dowleh, Shah issued a constitutional order."
- @Cwmhiraeth: The article is done by Saff V. and I tried to make some changes in the past. If you're going to edit the article, I think I can help you with prose and the concepts! --Mhhossein talk 11:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
I have now copyedited the article and somebody else is needed to review this nomination. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:57, 1 August 2017 (UTC)- New enough and long enough. I looked at the page for "Seyyed", which states that it is an honorific title. Normally page names do not include honorific titles... but I couldn't find anything about the title in Wikipedia's Manual of Style. The Encyclopedia Iranica doesn't include the title. The Encyclopedia Iranica also doesn't mention him being educated by Morteza Ansari. I also couldn't find information about him seeking asylum in Rey in the cited source, but another source mentioned a sit-in there, so I replaced the information and source for that part. The source given, Iran and Its Place Among Nations didn't mention who carried out the murder, and it was careful to say that Taghizadeh was suspected as ordering the assassination, so I changed the article's wording to reflect that. The information about Behbahani's burial place is in Arabic, so I'm accepting the hook source on good faith and Google translate. Please determine if the page should include the honorific title in its name and include a source for Behbahani's education by Morteza Ansari.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:44, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Rachel Helps (BYU): Thanks for the review. I tried to make some more changes for the sake of accuracy. Regarding the title, "Seyyed" is not an honorific and it's a part of his name. The word "seyyed" shows that he's a descendant of Fatimah. The word is mentioned in the birth IDs. There are some more articles starting with it such as: Sayyid Sadeq Rohani, Mir Sayyid Ali Hamadani and etc. You can see this source using the title. As for Morteza Ansari, I found this source by The Institute for Iranian Contemporary Historical Studies (IICHS) (I will include this source).
- @Mhhossein: thanks for the explanation about the Seyyed part of his name, and sorry for my ignorance on the subject. Let me know when you add the source you found. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:52, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Rachel Helps (BYU): You're welcome. I had already included the source to the lead, I've now added the citation to the body. --Mhhossein talk 14:52, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Mhhossein:
my concerns have been addressed and the article is good to go. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 02:02, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
- @Mhhossein:
- @Rachel Helps (BYU): You're welcome. I had already included the source to the lead, I've now added the citation to the body. --Mhhossein talk 14:52, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
