Template:Did you know nominations/Satin berrypecker
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Narutolovehinata5 talk 22:23, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Satin berrypecker
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Adult male satin berrypecker
- ... that the satin berrypecker (male pictured) is the only bird endemic to the Bird's Neck?
- Source: Kirwan, Guy M. (2021-08-18). Billerman, Shawn M.; Keeney, Brooke K.; Rodewald, Paul G.; Schulenberg, Thomas S. (eds.). "Satin Berrypecker (Melanocharis citreola)". Birds of the World. Cornell Lab of Ornithology. doi:10.2173/bow.satber1.01.
- ALT1: ... that although specimens of the satin berrypecker (male pictured) were first collected in 2014, the species may have been observed as early as 1983? Source: Kirwan, Guy M. (2021-08-18). Billerman, Shawn M.; Keeney, Brooke K.; Rodewald, Paul G.; Schulenberg, Thomas S. (eds.). "Satin Berrypecker (Melanocharis citreola)". Birds of the World. Cornell Lab of Ornithology. doi:10.2173/bow.satber1.01.
- ALT2: ... that the satin berrypecker (male pictured) is only the second species of bird to be described from New Guinea in the last 80 years? Source: Kirwan, Guy M. (2021-08-18). Billerman, Shawn M.; Keeney, Brooke K.; Rodewald, Paul G.; Schulenberg, Thomas S. (eds.). "Satin Berrypecker (Melanocharis citreola)". Birds of the World. Cornell Lab of Ornithology. doi:10.2173/bow.satber1.01.
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AryKun (talk) 13:15, 14 May 2024 (UTC).
- Starting Review--Kevmin § 17:05, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Apologies for the delay in commenting here. Article is new enough and long enough. The sources are neutral and policy compliant for WP:TOL/WP:Brids articles. The article is also neutral and well written with no indications of any Copyvio/close paraphrasing issues identified. My first question is regarding the article and sources use of "endemic", am I correct in interpreting the usage to mean its assumed by the authors that the species is "restricted" in range to just the Mountains of the birds neck and not present beyond that?--Kevmin § 19:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Thats what I was thinking would be the case. The article needs to have more explanation of what it means then, as read now its easy to come to the conclusion that the source states Melanocharis citreola to be the only bird found on the neck it total, rather then Melanocharis citreola being the first known bird with a range restricted to the neck.--Kevmin § 18:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC).
- I don't see how anyone would come to that conclusion; the article clearly states that it's the only bird endemic to the Bird's Neck and anyone who doesn't know what endemism is can just go to the article on endemism. Also, some part of New Guinea having exactly one species of bird is such a patetly absurd conclusion I don't see why anyone would consider it. AryKun (talk) 13:24, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- While you and I may feel its absurd, Most people do not have the underlying background in biology to make the connections that you have. I can absolutely say that someone without understanding of endemism can and will likely make that mistake.--Kevmin § 16:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article just says "It is the only bird known to be endemic to Bird’s Neck in Western New Guinea". Anyone who doesn't know what endemism is can just click on the link to find out. We can't explain every single concept that people might be unfamiliar with in the article, it's why we have wikilinks. AryKun (talk) 07:42, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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