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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 10:05, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Sahara Hospital

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Moved to mainspace by Bill william compton (talk). Self nominated at 15:17, 16 October 2013 (UTC).

Per the list provided by User:Allen3 here, I stopped by to check for compliance with Wikipedia's sourcing guidelines for medical text. This article is about an institution, and I don't see anything in the proposed hooks that engages MEDRS; I will leave source verification, copyvio checking, etc to other DYK reviewers. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:29, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Concern resolved. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:08, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

However, I do see some non-MEDRS things that could be corrected in the article.

  • " Its medical facilities are comparable to that of developed countries in the world.[6]" According to whom? That sort of statement should be attributed, and I can't read the source. If they are saying this themselves, that should be made clear-- at any rate, we should know who is making this claim.
  • I am not familiar with the source used to cite the hook, and cannot speak to its reliability (that is, I hope the text did not come from a press release ... when clicking around on the source site to try to determine its reliability, I am only coming up with dead links).

Those are general concerns-- no MEDRS concerns. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:29, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

According to Israel Vlodavsky who discovered some enzyme called Heparanase. Express Healthcare is published by the Indian Express Limited, which is a renowned media and publishing company. I see no reason to question the reliability of the source. — Bill william comptonTalk 17:24, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
After reading a Google translation of the source, I edited the statement to say "Its medical facilities have been described as comparable to those of developed countries such as the United States and England." --Orlady (talk) 15:52, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
That is passive voice ... described by whom? A claim of that nature should really be attributed. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:26, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it really should be attributed, but it isn't entirely clear to me (from the translated Hindi) who said this. The article appears to attribute the statement to Dr. Israel Vlodavsky, who is an Israeli cancer researcher. It is not clear what his basis for evaluating hospitals is, and it isn't clear if he had taken a cursory VIP tour of the hospital (which I suspect to be the case) or if he did a more thorough investigation, nor even if he actually rendered the opinion that appears to be attributed to him. I have the impression that he might have been setting up a clinical trial at this hospital. The "have been described" language is less than ideal, but it's a vast improvement over presenting the statement as an objective fact. --Orlady (talk) 16:41, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
In that case ... for a medical statement of that nature (that is, something that impacts consumers directly), considering that we can't tell who is making this claim, I don't think it should be in the article. "It has been described" isn't enough. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
  • SandyGeorgia removed the sentence at issue above. DYK review is still needed. --Orlady (talk) 20:00, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
  • for primary hook, not for alt. (The source for the alt hook, Emporis, has some issues with reliability.) Confirmed length of the article is good. Not technically "new" enough, but issues with a contentious sentence were being resolved. I would, however, suggest that the hook pluralize 'transplant' and 'placement' -- eg. that Sahara Hospital is the first in Uttar Pradesh to perform elbow transplants and endoscopic cervical plate placements? Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû (blah?) 06:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)