Template:Did you know nominations/Roosevelt Protected Landscape
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Fuebaey (talk) 08:02, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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Roosevelt Protected Landscape
[edit]- ... that the Roosevelt Protected Landscape was established by Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. while he was Governor-General of the Philippines?
Created by RioHondo (talk). Nominated by Innotata (talk) at 05:36, 20 October 2014 (UTC).
Article is new enough, created on 16 October. A quick check through Word shows the article is around 1516 characters, 1794 with spaces. So barely long enough. The article seems neutral and cites its sources with inline citations. However the whole paragraph on location is based on a Google Maps image, that doesn't seem sufficient. The paragraph on Topography and ecology is quite close paraphrasing of the fourth source. Concerning the hook: it's short enough and well-formated. However, I can't find it being backed up on the sources, I don't find information on Roosevelt signing it. Also, not related to the hook but to the same sentence, I found the date 30 March 1933 rather than 30 May 1933 for creation of the park. QPQ not required as not a self-nomination. Crispulop (talk) 10:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
- Using DYKcheck it's 1781 characters. I can't check the close paraphrasing since the link seems to be down right now… I guess it doesn't say Roosevelt issued a proclamation to create the park, but it does say the Governor-General did, and he was Governor-General at the time, also I imagine it won't be difficult to find a source such as the original proclamation. I should have noticed the issue with the location section. RioHondo, if you aren't interested in providing proper references, I'll withdraw this nomination because it won't succeed. —innotata 06:43, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
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- Hi, i just added a supporting citation to the park's establishment in 1933. I couldn't find the exact proclamation document but as the Philippines was governed by the US until the Philippine Commonwealth in 1935, its head of state would have been the U.S. Governor-General of the Philippines who had the sole authority to sign any government proclamation or act. And in March 1933 when the national park was established, that governor-general was Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. Thanks!--RioHondo (talk) 13:38, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
- Crispulop, can you please recheck to see whether this satisfies your concerns? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:11, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Many of the issues still remain. Location paragraph is still based on only Google Maps source, close paraphrasing isue also still exists. And the reasoning RioHondo presents concerning Roosevelt being the person signing the Proclamation seems logic, but I would argue that needs to come forth in the sourcing as well, and it does not.Crispulop (talk) 22:47, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
- Innotata, what are your plans for this nomination? Were you still thinking of withdrawing it? The fact that the close paraphrasing issue has not been dealt with in a month's time is worrying. Please let us know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC)