Template:Did you know nominations/Roberto Benedicto
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:19, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
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Roberto Benedicto
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... that Roberto Benedicto was so close to his fraternity brother, Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos, that he had full access to the presidential quarters in Malacañang Palace? Source:“Although he was not a relative, Benedicto became part of the small Marcos circle in Malacanang and was one of the few with complete access to the president’s private quarters.” – Garcia, 2016
- ALT1: ... that Roberto Benedicto's Daily Express was the first newspaper allowed to publish after Ferdinand Marcos declared Martial Law in the Philippines, because of his closeness with Marcos? Source: "“EVERYBODY THOUGHT Sept. 25, 1972 would be another paperless day. Just three days before, martial law had been declared and soldiers had gone around Metro Manila, padlocking the offices of major newspapers and wire agencies, and posting copies of Proclamation 1081 on their doors. Prominent newspapermen were detained on charges of subversion and other such crimes. It seemed that no newspaper would be seeing print for a long time. But by noon, the Philippine Daily Express was out. Alice Colet Villadolid, a journalism professor and former New York Times correspondent, says it was understandable why the Express was allowed to publish at that time. The paper was, after all, owned by Roberto Benedicto, a Marcos ally.- Melanie Pinlac, Center for Media Freedom and Responsibility, http://cmfr-phil.org/media-ethics-responsibility/ethics/marcos-and-the-press/”
- Reviewed: This is only my second DYK Nomination, so I understand I don't have to make a QPQ review yet. But I've already reviewed Chang and Eng Bunker for my previous nomination, and I shall try to review something else tomorrow, and indicate such in the comments.
- Comment: 5x expansion began on 19 July 2018. It would be nice for this to go out on 11 September, which is Ferdinand Marcos' birthdate, but if not feasible, anyday is fine.
5x expanded by Alternativity (talk) and Missvangie (talk). Nominated by Alternativity (talk) at 15:40, 26 July 2018 (UTC).
Query: 18× expansion from stub during the seven days prior to nomination. New enough, long enough. Neutrality: I was a little concerned that remembered as a crony of President Ferdinand Marcos
might be a bit negative for the first sentence of the article's lead, though "crony" is sourced and this does seem to be an accepted term in context. I linked it to Cronies of Ferdinand Marcos. You might consider rewording it to something like "remembered for his close association to". Sourcing: the Early life section needs a citation. For close paraphrasing, you might also give a little attention to this Earwig score which is showing a bit aside from the proper names. I'm not 100% sure about the intended meaning to rephrase it (e.g.: does "represented 27% of the country's dollar earnings" mean GDP, or exports since dollars is likely US$ ?) The hooks are under 200 characters, neutral, and interesting. AGF for QPQ. Verified online source for ALT1.However, there does not seem to be a source for the ALT0 that Benedicto was Marcos's fraternity brother (this is from the unsourced section).I have no preference between the two hooks; ALT1 would be good to go if the unsourced section was removed from the article. ALT0 will require that section have a citation. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:40, 15 August 2018 (UTC)- I added an inline citation to support ALT0 for being Marcos's fraternity brother. So ALT0 and ALT1 are both sufficiently sourced. However, there are still three unsupported statements in the Early life section: his birthdate, and that he is an alumnus of University of Phillipines Law School and George Washington University. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Well, at least one of those facts can be partially supported; Marcos and Benedicto were classmates at the UP Law School, so that fact can be proven by the same sources that say they were fraternity brothers, as long as the words "graduate" and "alumnus" are removed. (In real life, we can safely assume he graduated; but the sources don't explicitly say that.) As for the birthdate and GWU attendance, I've removed them from that section for now. (Should I also do the same for the birthdate in the lead and the infobox?) (Also, upon realizing that this would be great to release on Marcos' birthday on 11 September, I've added that request to the note above... I hope that's procedurally correct?)- Alternativity (talk) 17:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- To be an alumnus, a person only has to attend a school, graduation is not required; but I feel it's good how you have it. Yes, the birthdate will also have to be removed from the lead and infobox. (There's also a stray comma at the end of Early life and education.) The requested date shouldn't be a problem. (Oh, I just noticed that the hooks had an ellipsis character (…) instead of three periods. You might have an "autocorrect" feature on your software, maybe using a different computer while on wikivacation?) – Reidgreg (talk) 19:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. Removed the birthdates from infobox and lead,and removed stray comma. :D Did you correct the ellipses character already? It's reading as three periods for me. :D - Alternativity (talk) 03:19, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- To be an alumnus, a person only has to attend a school, graduation is not required; but I feel it's good how you have it. Yes, the birthdate will also have to be removed from the lead and infobox. (There's also a stray comma at the end of Early life and education.) The requested date shouldn't be a problem. (Oh, I just noticed that the hooks had an ellipsis character (…) instead of three periods. You might have an "autocorrect" feature on your software, maybe using a different computer while on wikivacation?) – Reidgreg (talk) 19:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Well, at least one of those facts can be partially supported; Marcos and Benedicto were classmates at the UP Law School, so that fact can be proven by the same sources that say they were fraternity brothers, as long as the words "graduate" and "alumnus" are removed. (In real life, we can safely assume he graduated; but the sources don't explicitly say that.) As for the birthdate and GWU attendance, I've removed them from that section for now. (Should I also do the same for the birthdate in the lead and the infobox?) (Also, upon realizing that this would be great to release on Marcos' birthday on 11 September, I've added that request to the note above... I hope that's procedurally correct?)- Alternativity (talk) 17:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- I added an inline citation to support ALT0 for being Marcos's fraternity brother. So ALT0 and ALT1 are both sufficiently sourced. However, there are still three unsupported statements in the Early life section: his birthdate, and that he is an alumnus of University of Phillipines Law School and George Washington University. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
