Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Smith (footballer born 1843)
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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:21, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Robert Smith (footballer born 1843), James Smith (footballer born 1848)
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- ... that, in 1872, Scotsmen James and Robert Smith (pictured) were the first pair of brothers to play international football?
Created/expanded by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Self nom at 18:36, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
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- The hook is interesting and appropriate, but is referenced only to the "Goalkeepers are different" website, which appears to be an unmoderated personal website. The other sources confirm that the two were brothers, but not that they were the first to play international football. Can this be confirmed by an a more reliable source?
- Proposed image is clear, appropriate and is used in the article. Although of low resolution, this is not an issue at 100px.
- The nominator has reviewed a nomination. Warofdreams talk 11:44, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- I can't find any other specific citation that they were the first brothers to play an international match, but the facts point this out. The match between Scotland and England was the first (officially recognised) international; see the article about the match here. This is confirmed by the IFFHS reference (#19) and the BBC reference (#14). The IFFHS reference refers to Robert and James Smith as brothers. From the team list, it is pretty evident that none of the other players were brothers. I hope this is sufficient. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 14:07, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Could you add a footnote or sentence to the articles noting that they were the only brothers to play in the match? It is sufficiently straightforward that, provided it is explicitly stated, I would be happy to pass this. Warofdreams talk 14:27, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- I have added a note to each article; I hope this is OK. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 14:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Great work on these - this is now ready to go! Warofdreams talk 14:55, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- I can't find any other specific citation that they were the first brothers to play an international match, but the facts point this out. The match between Scotland and England was the first (officially recognised) international; see the article about the match here. This is confirmed by the IFFHS reference (#19) and the BBC reference (#14). The IFFHS reference refers to Robert and James Smith as brothers. From the team list, it is pretty evident that none of the other players were brothers. I hope this is sufficient. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 14:07, 7 October 2011 (UTC)