Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Ludwig Kahn
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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:53, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
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Robert Ludwig Kahn
... that Robert L. Kahn was interned as an enemy alien after coming to England on a Kindertransport?Source: Beckschulte 1998, p. 208/209: "So gelangte Ludwig Kahn mit einem Kindertransport im Mai 1939 nach England. [...] Schließlich aber wurde er [...] als 'feindlicher Ausländer' festgenommen und auf der Insel Man interniert."- ALT1:
... that Robert L. Kahn, who had left Nazi Germany with a Kindertransport, later became professor of German at Rice University in Houston? - ALT1a:... that poet and scholar Robert L. Kahn, who had
leftescaped Nazi Germany with a Kindertransport, became professor of German at Rice University in Houston? - ALT2:
... that Robert L. Kahn, who had left Nazi Germany with a Kindertransport, wrote poetry that was performed on German radio? - ALT3:
... that Robert L. Kahn, who took his own life 50 years ago today, performed some of his poetry at a conference where also Günter Grass and Peter Handke read from their work?
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- Reviewed: Yang Xin (art historian)
- Comment: Could possibly be run on the 50th anniversary of his suicide (March 22). I can't find a good hook related to his death, though (suggestions welcome). We could also mix some of the hook facts or mention the Group 47 or the fact that Grass and Handke later received Nobel Prizes?
Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk). Self-nominated at 16:16, 22 February 2020 (UTC).
A tough life, on good sources, offline source accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I am not sure about the date request, remembering his sad death. We could run a hook that does NOT mention it, that day or some other time. Do you intentionally not mention that he is a poet? Rice University would need a link, perhaps also at least a country. Striking the radio hook, - it was much later than the Kindertransport. I'd not pursue the Grass and Handke line, - this is about Kahn ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I am not sure either about whether or not to request the 50th anniversary of his death. I added links to Rice University; I think saying it is in Houston should be enough information for most of our readers. Added ALT1a with extra information about him being a poet. The Gruppe 47 connection, while interesting to German literary educated readers, might not be too exciting to others, so I was wondering whether spicing it up with Nobel Prizes might be worthwhile, but you are probably right that this distracts from the interesting life of Kahn. —Kusma (t·c) 15:49, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- Agree, and was told that I should have knoen Rice University ;) - Would you please word a hook with what he did, and poetry seems more fascinating than teaching language. - I recall a hook about the conductor who took his life (with his wife), and we didn't mention it. Some readers even may reservations, who knows? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:26, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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... that Robert L. Kahn, who had left Nazi Germany with a Kindertransport, wrote poetry in German? - ALT5: ... that Rice University professor of German studies Robert L. Kahn had escaped Nazi Germany with a Kindertransport and later wrote poetry?
- ALT6: ... that Rice University professor of German studies Robert L. Kahn, who had escaped Nazi Germany with a Kindertransport, was editor of the English edition of A Voyage Round the World?
- I don't think he ever taught language, he taught German literature. His poetry was not his main job, and may just have been his means of dealing with his terrible memories. Anyway, I added some more hook suggestions. One possibly surprising thing is that the East German Akademie-Verlag chose a Germanist to edit the English version of Georg Forster's A Voyage Round the World (and of course it was through that connection that I got the idea to write about Kahn). —Kusma (t·c) 21:58, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, and I don't want to torture you ;) - enough choices. - We just had Lisel Mueller who wrote poetry in English- --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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- Agree, and was told that I should have knoen Rice University ;) - Would you please word a hook with what he did, and poetry seems more fascinating than teaching language. - I recall a hook about the conductor who took his life (with his wife), and we didn't mention it. Some readers even may reservations, who knows? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:26, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: I am not sure either about whether or not to request the 50th anniversary of his death. I added links to Rice University; I think saying it is in Houston should be enough information for most of our readers. Added ALT1a with extra information about him being a poet. The Gruppe 47 connection, while interesting to German literary educated readers, might not be too exciting to others, so I was wondering whether spicing it up with Nobel Prizes might be worthwhile, but you are probably right that this distracts from the interesting life of Kahn. —Kusma (t·c) 15:49, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
