Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Dirks
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The result was: promoted by Victuallers (talk) 09:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
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Robert Dirks
[edit]... that Robert Dirks, a research chemist who died in the February 2015 Valhalla train crash, wrote the initial code for the NUPACK suite of nucleic acid design and analysis tools?- ALT3:
... that Robert Dirks, a research chemist known for his work in DNA nanotechnology, died in the 2015 Valhalla train crash?
- Reviewed: Mercenaries in the First Congo War
- Comment: Might be able think of some more ALTs
Moved to mainspace by Daniel Case (talk) and Antony-22 (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 04:56, 20 June 2015 (UTC).
ALT1: ... that Robert Dirks, a research chemist who died in the February 2015 Valhalla train crash, turned down MIT to go to Wabash College as an undergraduate?Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 04:48, 22 June 2015 (UTC)ALT2: ... that Robert Dirks, a research chemist who died in the February 2015 Valhalla train crash, was known for his theoretical and experimental work in DNA nanotechnology?Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 05:13, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
New enough (moved to mainspace June 18, DYK nominated June 20). Long enough, adequately cited for the most part (I tagged one phrase lacking citation- should be cited or removed before DYK) and appears free of close paraphrasing. QPQ done. My only hangups are the hooks: the first is filled with jargon unfamiliar and irrelevant to most readers, ALT1 isn't terribly interesting, and ALT2 is a bit cumbersome. I'd propose a more concise hook that succinctly grabs attention:
- ALT3: ... that Robert Dirks, a research chemist known for his work in DNA nanotechnology, died in the 2015 Valhalla train crash? --Animalparty-- (talk) 07:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Good to go! I have struck the original hook, replaced with ALT3: more direct, tragic though it is. --Animalparty! (talk) 21:27, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
@Animalparty: per Rule H2, you cannot approve your own hook. Could another reviewer take a look at this? Yoninah (talk) 23:57, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for that, I did not know that, now I know :) --Animalparty! (talk) 00:00, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: all Animalparty did was reverse the two clauses of the hook without changing its meaning. Minor changes for clarity suggested by a reviewer don't trigger a new review since it doesn't make it "their own hook" for Rule H2. If the reviewer suggests a completely new hook or changes the meaning of an existing one, then a new reviewer is needed. In this case, if you want to independently review the hook yourself, I'm fine with that, it will only take you about ten seconds. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 06:22, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, you're right, but perhaps you could understand my confusion looking at the numbering of the hooks. It would have been much better to write the alts in chronological order so the prep builder can see the progress of this nomination. I reviewed the article and found the ALT3 hook verified and cited inline. Neutrally written and no close paraphrasing seen. ALT3 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 08:44, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: all Animalparty did was reverse the two clauses of the hook without changing its meaning. Minor changes for clarity suggested by a reviewer don't trigger a new review since it doesn't make it "their own hook" for Rule H2. If the reviewer suggests a completely new hook or changes the meaning of an existing one, then a new reviewer is needed. In this case, if you want to independently review the hook yourself, I'm fine with that, it will only take you about ten seconds. Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 06:22, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
