Template:Did you know nominations/René Maturana
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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 21:31, 22 April 2013 (UTC).
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René Maturana
[edit]- ... that René Maturana Maldonado was the last Mayor of Pichilemu to be appointed by the military regime of Augusto Pinochet?
- Comment: If translations are needed, just say.
Created by Lester Foster (talk). Self nominated at 22:23, 19 April 2013 (UTC).
Sourcing looks good, hook is in article, new and long enough. My only concern is with the image — you claim it as public domain (apparently because it's anonymous?) even though you say that the author is someone with the Pichilemu News. If it came from the News, it's a work for hire, so it's not anonymous, and thus not PD. Would you please (1) remove the image, or (2) demonstrate more clearly why it's in the public domain? With the image issues fixed, this will be ready to go. Nyttend (talk) 03:17, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Hi there. Chilean copyright law seems to be ambiguous in this case; the work is not anonymous (if that was the case, and considering the picture might have been taken during Maturana's mayorship, it would be PD by 2050 or '60), it is stated nowhere in Pichilemu News who took the photograph. Washington Saldías, who runs the site, is known in Pichilemu for collecting historic photographs of the town, including photos of the commune mayors, which he has posted in the website and in articles published in a local newspaper called El Expreso de la Costa. I will try to find a way to contact him, since he does not seem to have an e-mail account, and until then (if he knows who created the photo) and since the picture's author is unknown now, it should be considered public domain, based on the National Library explanation. (I might have been overly confusing with my explanation, sorry about that) Lester Foster (talk | talk) 03:25, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- This is a translation of the law excerpt from the file description:
- In Chile, Intellectual Property is regulated by the Law number 17,336 of 1970, modified by law 19,928 from 2008.
- Works belonging to the common property (works whose protection time has extinguished/expired and works by unknown authors), "can be used by anyone, always that authorship and the work's integrity are respected." (article number 11) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lester Foster (talk • contribs) 03:32, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Wow, that was fast; you didn't even wait until I notified you :-) The ambiguity of the situation means that we shouldn't use the image; proof of PD status would let us use it, but waiting for proof would make this a non-new nomination by the time it would get to the Main Page. Nyttend (talk) 03:37, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- I had this page on my watchlist, lol :) Well, I'll re-upload this file locally under a fair use rationale and remove the picture from this nomination; I'll tag the Commons picture for deletion and then ask for its undeletion (?) if the source proves to be unknown, regards Lester Foster (talk | talk) 03:44, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Do that and I'll readily approve the nomination, since this will easily pass the fair-use criteria — especially because of the PD possibility. By the way, you didn't mention a DYK nomination that you reviewed; did you simply forget to mention one, or will you still need to do it? Nyttend (talk) 03:50, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Done! (I keep on forgetting that, reviewed Highnam Court) Lester Foster (talk | talk) 04:01, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- I had this page on my watchlist, lol :) Well, I'll re-upload this file locally under a fair use rationale and remove the picture from this nomination; I'll tag the Commons picture for deletion and then ask for its undeletion (?) if the source proves to be unknown, regards Lester Foster (talk | talk) 03:44, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
- Wow, that was fast; you didn't even wait until I notified you :-) The ambiguity of the situation means that we shouldn't use the image; proof of PD status would let us use it, but waiting for proof would make this a non-new nomination by the time it would get to the Main Page. Nyttend (talk) 03:37, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
