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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:35, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

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Protocol Wars

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  • ... that Larry Roberts described the ARPANET model as "oversold" during the Protocol Wars? Source: page 1309, "Hopefully, the extensive publications on the ARPANET have not oversold the particular variety of packet switching used in this first major network experiment. "
    • ALT1:... that Vint Cerf performed a striptease in a three-piece suit during the Protocol Wars? Source: page 55, "As Cerf addressed the IETF, he slowly removed the layers of his signature three-piece suit, performing a striptease that revealed a Tshirt: “IP on Everything.”"
  • Reviewed: Ted Robbins
  • Comment: This article was created on Feb 5th. At the start of the day on Feb 6th, the article was 3,569 bytes, at the end of the day on Feb 12th/start of day Feb 13th it was 21,595 bytes, 5x expansion and I posted on the talk page here on the 13th to seek assistance with the DYK nomination and hit submit on the DYK nomination on the 14th due to real world responsibilities. The article is rated C-class by Wiki Project Computing.

Created/expanded by Whizz40 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC).

  • Hi @Whizz40:, taking a look at this as you requested. This is far from my area of expertise, so can you say why the first hook would be interesting to a broad audience? The second hook is certainly catchy but the first isn't standing out to the casual reader. Kosack (talk) 09:16, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you Kosack. Agree the second hook is catchy. Larry Roberts played a central role in building the ARPANET, which was the forerunner of the Internet. He 'switched sides' in the Protocol Wars when he later built Telenet using a different approach. We could rephrase the first hook as:
... that Larry Roberts built the ARPANET, the forerunner of the Internet, and later described it as "oversold" during the Protocol Wars?
I think my preference is for the second hook (ALT1). Whizz40 (talk) 10:27, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Review as follows. Article was created on 5 February, nomination was marginally outside the window but I think we can allow a little slack there. Article is well over the minimum required prose size and has no copyvio concerns. ALT1 and the revised original hook are catchy enough for promotion and have inline citations to reliable sources. QPQ is also complete. @Whizz40:, from your comment above, you're happy with ALT1 being the main hook for promotion? Kosack (talk) 16:42, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes, agreed, let's go with ALT1 for the DYK nomination. Vint Cerf is better known, and this hook relates to the Internet-OSI Standard War which is the main component of the Protocol Wars. Thank you Kosack. Whizz40 (talk) 01:22, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

In case anyone reviewing DYK or the Talk page is more familiar with this than me, there are three images which could be included in the article but I'm not sure about the fair use or copyright requirements to reproduce them. These images would be for further article development rather than the DYK nomination, but any suggestions on how to include them would gratefully received:

  • The Davies graphic from the 1975 Computer world.[1]
  • a Vint Cerf "IP on everything" t-shirt photo for which reference 70 (on page 60) in this source mentions a link to the image but that is not working.[2] However, there are pictures found on the web here.
  • the cartoon on page 4 of the attached paper.[3] Whizz40 (talk) 01:22, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
  • @Whizz40:, I'm happy to promote this now. If you do add an image before it reaches the main page, I'll double check that too. For now, this is good to go with ALT1 as the main hook. Kosack (talk) 05:24, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Enterprise, I. D. G. (1975-10-22). Computerworld. IDG Enterprise. pp. 17–18.
  2. ^ Russell, Andrew L. "Rough Consensus and Running Code' and the Internet-OSI Standards War" (PDF). IEEE Annals of the History of Computing.
  3. ^ Fluckiger, Francois (February 2000). "The European Researchers' Network" (PDF). La Recherche (328).
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