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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 00:35, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Primer with Various Instructions

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• ... that the first secular Bulgarian book (illustrations pictured) of the modern era was a children's encyclopedia?

Created/expanded by Tourbillon (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

• New enough, long enough, good refs, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook is interesting and verified. The page creator has no other DYK noms, so no QPQ review is necessary. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:14, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks ! - ☣Tourbillon ^A ? 17:54, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

• I was about to promote this, but am instead sending the hook back for a reconsideration. The sources clearly say "modern" secular book. There could well have been other secular books in the Renaissance period. It's up to you how you include the qualifier of modernity—I'd probably pair it with the year of publication, 1824, to give context to "modern"—but the hook is simply not accurate as is. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:23, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• The Renaissance did not reach Bulgaria. The few books that survive from the period before 1750 are entirely religious in nature. However I added "of the modern era", is that fine ? - ☣Tourbillon ^A ? 17:59, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• I think that phrase helps, but also that a date would make it even clearer, since "modern era" could be after the Soviet-bloc period (or, I suppose, during it, given that communist regimes tended to be anti-religion). How's this:

• ALT1: ... that the first secular Bulgarian book (illustrations pictured) of the modern era was an 1824 children's encyclopedia? —BlueMoonset (talk) 18:35, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• Seems a lot better. - ☣Tourbillon ^A ? 19:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• We need an independent eye to pass the hook now that it has been changed. Maybe Yoninah will stop by again? BlueMoonset (talk) 19:34, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• Contacted on talk page. - ☣Tourbillon ^A ? 20:07, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

• ALT1 looks fine to me. Hook ref verified. Yoninah (talk) 19:18, 5 May 2012 (UTC)