The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:33, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
... that in the 1960s, the Plaza Hotel's(pictured) owners hung a portrait to honor Eloise, the main character of the eponymous book series who lived in the hotel? Source: NY Times 1979
ALT1:... that New York City's Plaza Hotel(pictured) was built because its predecessor could not be expanded due to weak foundations? Source: Gathje, Curtis (2000). At the Plaza: an illustrated history of the world's most famous hotel. p. 11
ALT2:... that a potential buyer for the Plaza Hotel(pictured) reneged after getting trapped behind a door in the hotel? Source: Satow, Julie (2019). The Plaza : the secret life of America's most famous hotel, chapter 12. (The version of the book that I used is unpaged, so chapter numbers are used.)
ALT3:... that residents of the Plaza Hotel(pictured) included Russian princess Vilma Lwoff-Parlaghy, who lived on the third floor with her lion? Source: Gathje 2000, p. 89.
ALT4:... that during the Great Depression, the "wealthy widows" living at the Plaza Hotel(pictured)' were considered "a tourist attraction in their own right"? Source: Satow 2019, chapter 6.
QPQ: - Not done Overall: Epicgenius, 5x expansion began November 30. No copyvios detected. AGF as the cited page for the hook is not available online. Good image, just wish the trees were not in the way of the lower part of the building. QPQ yet to be done. All in all a great article and a catchy hook! just waiting on a QPQ. Found5dollar (talk) 18:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
@Found5dollar: Thanks for the quick review. I'll do a QPQ review shortly. Epicgenius (talk) 20:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Don't mean to butt in @Epicgenius: but I'm surprised, at least with Christmas coming up, you didn't do a Home Alone hook for it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:00, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
@The C of E: Actually, that is a good idea. Thanks for bringing it up - I'd have to think about something. There are a few things that jumped out, but none I thought were really hooky: (1) that the Plaza is one of the most filmed places in NYC, (2) that the Plaza does not have a pool contrary to what's shown in Home Alone 2, and (3) that Trump had a cameo. Epicgenius (talk) 17:04, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
@The C of E: Yeah, that sounds good. I added a variation of that as ALT5A - if this is approved, maybe it can go up on December 25. @Found5dollar: Thank you for your patience. I've done a QPQ, and added ALT5 and ALT5A for your consideration. Epicgenius (talk) 18:22, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Overall: Epicgenius, Both hooks pass the review. I personally find ALT5 hookier with "he requested a cameo in" but either works. I'm still a little iffy on the trees in the image but everything else is good to go! great job. Found5dollar (talk) 19:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Found5dollar and Epicgenius, I'm just butting in with a suggestion: If this is scheduled for Christmas Day, why not a hook that actually mentions Christmas? For example, "... that the movie Home Alone 2: Lost in New York is about a little boy who finds himself alone in the Plaza Hotel at Christmas?" -- MelanieN (talk) 18:54, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
@MelanieN: Thanks for the comment. However, even if we added it to the article with a source, that hook sounds like it's more about Home Alone 2. I feel that we might be missing out on many possible hooks about the hotel itself. Epicgenius (talk) 19:06, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, but it seems a far stretch to promote ALT5/5a for Christmas because the Christmas connection is with the movie, not the hotel. ALT3 is a far better hook and would merit an image slot on any other day. Pinging reviewer Found5dollar. Yoninah (talk) 12:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: The reason why I suggested doing something with Home Alone 2 was because it's well known as a Christmas film and is probably the thing that will make the hook stand out the most (the addition of future President Trump in there is a bonus) in my view. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 13:25, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Alt 3, Alt 5, and Alt 5a have been reviewed and passed by me. I am indifferent to which one is used or when. I will let @Epicgenius: weigh in on what their preference is. I'm happy to review other hooks if something else is deemed more appropriate.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:55, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
If we're saving this specifically for Christmas, 5 and 5A may work better than 3. Otherwise, I don't really have a particular preference among these. Epicgenius (talk) 16:07, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
OK, ALT5 it is for Christmas Day. Restoring tick per Found5dollar's review. Yoninah (talk) 20:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Not done
Epicgenius, 5x expansion began November 30. No copyvios detected. AGF as the cited page for the hook is not available online. Good image, just wish the trees were not in the way of the lower part of the building. QPQ yet to be done. All in all a great article and a catchy hook! just waiting on a QPQ. Found5dollar (talk) 18:42, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Epicgenius, Both hooks pass the review. I personally find ALT5 hookier with "he requested a cameo in" but either works. I'm still a little iffy on the trees in the image but everything else is good to go! great job. Found5dollar (talk) 19:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, but it seems a far stretch to promote ALT5/5a for Christmas because the Christmas connection is with the movie, not the hotel. ALT3 is a far better hook and would merit an image slot on any other day. Pinging reviewer Found5dollar. Yoninah (talk) 12:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)