Template:Did you know nominations/Pilate cycle
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 09:25, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
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Pilate cycle
- ... that Pontius Pilate continued writing letters and reports for centuries after his death? Source: Offline books, but see http://www.oxfordbiblicalstudies.com/article/book/acprof-9780198261827/acprof-9780198261827-div1-150 for a summary / table of contents to JK Elliot, one of the sources.
- ALT1: ... that apocrypha forged in the name of Pontius Pilate continued to be produced for centuries after his death?
- ALT0b: ... that "Pontius Pilate" continued writing letters and reports for centuries after his death?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bobbie Wygant
- Comment: The main hook is intentionally silly and eye-catching, while the alt is phrased more seriously. I'd mildly prefer the main suggestion.
Created by SnowFire (talk). Self-nominated at 02:29, 20 January 2022 (UTC).
Article is well sourced and written, and fulfills all the DYK criteria. Fact is sourced (I was actually able to find an online version through my university library), and both hooks are interesting. If we were going with the first one, I suggest that we put scare quotes around "Pontius Pilate", so we can emphasize that these are misattributions. Normsupon (talk) 00:16, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Added that suggestion as ALT0b above. Thanks! SnowFire (talk) 02:04, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- There are various paragraphs lacking citations. As a thumb rule, we'll need at-least a citation at the end of a para, regardless if it is repeated. Ping me when replying. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk)
- Added that suggestion as ALT0b above. Thanks! SnowFire (talk) 02:04, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Kavyansh.Singh and SL93: Added the requested citations. SnowFire (talk) 05:41, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: I'm- feeling a little thick. Where could I find the hook fact (or its unquirked version) in the article? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 01:32, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Theleekycauldron: In the "Background" section, it says that Pontius Pilate's term as governor was from 26–36 AD. His death date isn't known, but he definitely wasn't a teenager or the like when he was appointed governor, so he was definitely dead by 100 AD at the latest (40-70 AD a more likely range). The hypothesized dates of authorship listed for all of the works are way, way after that - the 2nd century (aka 100-199) at the absolute earliest for the Anaphora Pilati / Letter of Pilate to Claudius / Acts of Pilate (although probably much later in all three cases), and most being written in the 4th, 5th, or 6th centuries (e.g. the various Letter of Pilate to XYZs), all forged in Pilate's name. (There's some even later works listed too, although they generally claim to be about Pilate rather than literally written by Pilate.) So the citations on the paragraphs with dates of authorship are the relevant ones for the hook. SnowFire (talk) 03:43, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: I'm- feeling a little thick. Where could I find the hook fact (or its unquirked version) in the article? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 01:32, 2 February 2022 (UTC)
