Template:Did you know nominations/Piccadilly line
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 17:50, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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Piccadilly line
... that an experiment to encourage passengers to step on the escalator three at a time was trialed at a Piccadilly line station?Source: Horne's Piccadilly book (offline) (ref32)- ALT1:
... that Buckingham, Heathrow and Harrods are on the Piccadilly line?Source: Tfl poster and google maps - ALT2:
... that it took the Piccadilly line 31 years to fully replace District line services to Hounslow?Source: several in the Western extensions subsection in History - ALT3:
... that the Aldwych branch of the Piccadilly line was to be extended to Waterloo for decades, but the branch was closed instead in 1994?Source: several in Notable incidents and events, Aldwych branch closure subsection. Also cited in the Aldwych tube station article - ALT4:... that 200,000 children were evacuated via the Piccadilly line during World War II? Source: Horne's book (ref86)
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... that torpedo sights were produced on the Piccadilly line at Earl's Court station during World War II?Source: same ref as above - ALT6:
... that in October 1965, 960 m of new diversion tracks were laid near Finsbury Park within 13 hours?Source: Horne's book (ref94)
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- Reviewed: Shukri al-Asali
- Comment: A December 15 date for the line's anniversary is kindly appreciated. The article may go through a GAR so I suggest leaving this onhold after a review is done. Thank you <3 Another note: I also would love to know whether a picture should be inserted into this nom :D
Improved to Good Article status by Vincent60030 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:19, 4 October 2020 (UTC).
Interesting line, fine substantial GA on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF. I'm [only] approving 2 ALTs, to make life easier for the prep builder. I'm sorry, but believe that 15 December is asking too much, - 6 weeks is max unless we make an exception. None of the images looks exceptional to represent the line (to me). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
As Vincent60030 noted, the GA review was problematic and a new review there will need to be done. This is being put on hold until the new GA review has been completed and the article properly listed. So it is possible that the GA status may not be awarded until much closer to December 15, in which case the nomination might be eligible for the special occasion after all, though it's unlikely that it will take a month to complete the review. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:12, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I am attempting to request for 15 December because I have really worked hard on adjusting the timings for this promotion, as well as on the GA, but the GA review was cut short, and yes as what BlueMoonset stated, GAR/re-GAN may appear soon seen here so yea. VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 05:21, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: In ALT1 above, is it seriously intended to call "Buckingham Palace" just "Buckingham"? I hope it is an error, as it is not a usable form. Could you please clarify? Thanks DBaK (talk) 08:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: Yes, I did intend it to be put that way because it sounded more quirky lol. But if the word Palace is in there it kind of gives away the quirkyness. VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Vincent60030: OK and thanks so much for the reply. It's your nom and I am not going to put up a big fight but I would like to note that I really really hate it! Sorry. :) I think it sounds not quirky, but simply like you don't know the difference. It is not something that someone ever says for the palace, so it makes you sound, ermm, ignorant (sorry, sorry, this is getting terribly rude!) or like a visitor from overseas who doesn't know the difference or contracts things they don't understand. The quirk doesn't work - it falls flat. It would be like saying "The Heath" for "Heathrow" or something ... the meaning just isn't there. Just nooooooo. Gosh, I am sorry, I am going on like my Granny – not a good thing. I have had my say and will now stfu as I understand the young people charmingly put it. Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:49, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @DBaK: more like I should be the one feeling sorry that I hurt your feelings. I didn't mean to as all I go for is quirkyness which kinda disregarded cultural forbidden omissions. I do admit that I would do the same for DYKs of my local area but I am sure there can be a compromise. We'll see how it goes as I am not a British expert and I guess I am not in a position to even comment about it. How about I ask for some opinions from @Redrose64 and Ritchie333:? VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 09:18, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- To add on to this, well I do know Buckingham is a place name so I wouldn't say I haven't a clue but...I guess I apologise. VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 09:20, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Vincent60030: absolutely nothing to apologize for here! If anything it should be me, for getting out of my pram about trivia. I wish I had realized you weren't British – I would have been much, much nicer about this! Sorry. And seeing what those two megaexperts think is a brilliant idea – I have the highest respect for their views. If either of them tells me to just shut up and go and put the kettle on I am right there! Thank you for your fantastically civilized approach to this unmajor issue. :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 13:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Using simply "Buckingham" is not a good idea, it's not a place nor is it named after a place. Buckingham Palace is named after the Dukes of Buckingham, who until 1761 owned the land upon which the palace was subsequently built. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 13:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- I hope y'all understand that I moved this discussion to below the nomination. What do you think of not mentioning Buckingham at all in an ALT1a? Even quirkier with just Heathrow and Harrods, no, and Ha Ha? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- ALT1a:... that Heathrow and Harrods are on the Piccadilly line? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- Personally, I think that ALT4 is by far the most interesting proposed; that various landmarks can be traveled to on a particular transit line has nowhere near the same interest, and I don't see the "quirky" attraction to either of the ALT1 variants. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:53, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- I'd approve it but wait for the GA proceedings, hopefully to the end of the month. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note to Gerda Arendt: the article just passed its GA review. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for the welcome info!
- --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Note to Gerda Arendt: the article just passed its GA review. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'd approve it but wait for the GA proceedings, hopefully to the end of the month. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Personally, I think that ALT4 is by far the most interesting proposed; that various landmarks can be traveled to on a particular transit line has nowhere near the same interest, and I don't see the "quirky" attraction to either of the ALT1 variants. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:53, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
- Using simply "Buckingham" is not a good idea, it's not a place nor is it named after a place. Buckingham Palace is named after the Dukes of Buckingham, who until 1761 owned the land upon which the palace was subsequently built. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 13:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Vincent60030: absolutely nothing to apologize for here! If anything it should be me, for getting out of my pram about trivia. I wish I had realized you weren't British – I would have been much, much nicer about this! Sorry. And seeing what those two megaexperts think is a brilliant idea – I have the highest respect for their views. If either of them tells me to just shut up and go and put the kettle on I am right there! Thank you for your fantastically civilized approach to this unmajor issue. :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 13:54, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @Vincent60030: OK and thanks so much for the reply. It's your nom and I am not going to put up a big fight but I would like to note that I really really hate it! Sorry. :) I think it sounds not quirky, but simply like you don't know the difference. It is not something that someone ever says for the palace, so it makes you sound, ermm, ignorant (sorry, sorry, this is getting terribly rude!) or like a visitor from overseas who doesn't know the difference or contracts things they don't understand. The quirk doesn't work - it falls flat. It would be like saying "The Heath" for "Heathrow" or something ... the meaning just isn't there. Just nooooooo. Gosh, I am sorry, I am going on like my Granny – not a good thing. I have had my say and will now stfu as I understand the young people charmingly put it. Cheers DBaK (talk) 08:49, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- @DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered: Yes, I did intend it to be put that way because it sounded more quirky lol. But if the word Palace is in there it kind of gives away the quirkyness. VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 08:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: In ALT1 above, is it seriously intended to call "Buckingham Palace" just "Buckingham"? I hope it is an error, as it is not a usable form. Could you please clarify? Thanks DBaK (talk) 08:04, 5 October 2020 (UTC)