Template:Did you know nominations/Patsy Dan Rodgers

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 15:33, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Patsy Dan Rodgers

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Future King of England

... ~~that the future King of England (pictured) wished to meet an Irish king but did not do so before his death?~~
Source: "And he expressed a hope of one day going to Tory... Charles also knew Tory has its own reigning monarch and said it would be great to meet him." Prince Charles: Now I want to visit Tory (and meet the King)
- ALT1:... ~~that the future King of England wished to meet an Irish king?~~

Comment: I wonder if this might be considered for April Fools' Day? The Irish of this time do not have a "king" in the same way that Britain does. The north-east already falls under the British monarchy. The rest of the island is a Republic with a President. It might surprise those who followed the recent election that Ireland did in fact have a "king" already during that election campaign.

Created by Laxlad (talk). Self-nominated at 10:34, 29 March 2019 (UTC).

@Laxlad: You are aware that the title King of England hasn't existed since 1707? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 10:44, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

The article might have some potential for an April fool's hook, but neither of the supplied hooks adequately fit the criteria IMO. Gatoclass (talk) 12:45, 29 March 2019 (UTC).

Anything left in the tank EEng? Gatoclass (talk) 13:41, 29 March 2019 (UTC).

I've been sick for two days and the whole apparatus is impaired, and I'm afraid I've been disappointing you lately, but I don't see an April 1 in this either. It's not enough to twist some words, or even have a bit of a surprise; it's gotta have some laugh value when the underlying truth is revealed. Now pardon me while I go swig some more codeine. I hope my failure here won't prevent you from calling on me again. E Eng 14:47, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Suggested alt:

ALT2: ... ~~that Ireland's King Patsy, who died last year, liked to personally greet visitors to his domain?~~Gatoclass (talk) 16:51, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

I've struck the above hook as I had some concerns about it, but I still think there should be a viable hook in there somewhere and may propose something a little later. Gatoclass (talk) 03:57, 31 March 2019 (UTC).

ALT3: ... that Patsy, the recently deceased Irish king, liked to personally welcome visitors to his domain? Gatoclass (talk) 10:01, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry about the wrong title for the Prince of Wales - I think that one is correct (but hey, it's not as if I have a history degree!) I guess the ALT3 is better than what I offered.

Or (similarly), ALT4: ... that Patsy, the recently deceased Irish king, personally welcomed visitors who landed in his realm? Laxlad (talk) 14:48, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes, ALT4 looks okay too, but I cannot personally verify either ALT3 or ALT4 because they are basically my own hook or a variant thereof, so we're still waiting on an independent reviewer for this one. Gatoclass (talk) 14:52, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

That's fine. Thanks for your help. Laxlad (talk) 15:01, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Article is new enough, just long enough (1566 prose characters per DYKcheck), neutral, and well cited, with no sign of copyvio or close paraphrasing. ALT3 and ALT4 are both sourced in the article and the cited sources, are well under the 200-character limit, and neutral, as well as suitable for April Fools' Day. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:14, 31 March 2019 (UTC)