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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 02:24, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

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Patrik Berger

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  • Reviewed: Nina (Xiu Xiu album)
  • Comment: there is a picture at the article but I don't think it is good enough for the front page

Improved to Good Article status by Cloudz679 (talk). Self nominated at 17:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC).

  • WP:AGF on offline reference, promoted to GA on 1/11, and hook long enough. With GA review it appears to meet other criteria. EricSerge (talk) 19:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Excuse me, but why is this hook hooky? Yoninah (talk) 01:13, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I don't know if this question is for me, but the "hooky" definition at WP:WIADYK mentions "short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article." I feel that the proposed hook is just that. Why is it not "hooky"? C679 06:11, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Because I have no idea who Patrik Berger is or why a last-minute penalty is important. Yoninah (talk) 13:34, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Surely the intrigue encourages a reader to click. It wasn't last-minute, but here is an alternative if you prefer.
  • ALT1 ... that Czech footballer Patrik Berger scored a penalty in the final of Euro 96?C679 16:21, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Now we know who he is, but we still don't know why it's important and, therefore, hooky. You could expand it:
  • ALT2: ... that Czech footballer Patrik Berger scored a penalty in the final of Euro 96 to give the Czech Republic a 1–0 lead over Germany, but the Czechs lost the golden goal in overtime?
  • But if you use ALT2, you need an inline cite in the article for the last part of that statement. Alternatively, it would be great to make a pun or a contrasting statement about that "strong left foot". Here are other ideas:
  • ALT3: ... that Czech footballer Patrik Berger was known for his powerful strikes, surging runs, and strong left foot?
  • ALT4: ... that although Czech footballer Patrik Berger retired from international football at age 28, he continued playing as an amateur until age 40? Yoninah (talk) 19:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
I've added a citation for ALT2 to work, but the grammar needs a fix, so here is my final offering:

Hope that's "hooky" enough! C679 19:39, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

  • Certainly. But now I can't approve a hook I worked on. I'll ping EricSerge to see if he'll sign off on this. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:53, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
  • "Hooky" enough for me. Forgive me for my lack of creativity in prior hook approval. EricSerge (talk) 00:08, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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