Template:Did you know nominations/Panorama (German television)

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 17:21, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Panorama (German TV program)

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... that when the German political television magazine Panorama was run by Peter Merseburger, he refused to moderate in 1974 when a report by Alice Schwarzer about an abortion was cancelled last minute?Source: several
- Reviewed: Nieuwe Pekela

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:24, 27 February 2022 (UTC).

Long enough. Nominated just outside of 7 days (a little under 8) after creation, but I'd lean toward accepting this despite the slight delay. QPQ present. Page moved to Panorama (German TV program) per WP:NCTV. AGF on German hook fact sourcing, but it's in the article. That said, I'd consider rewording for brevity. @Gerda Arendt: There are three paragraphs needing end-of-paragraph inline citations, one of which is two sentences long and terminates abruptly. This will need to be fixed before passage. Ping me when done. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:34, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- ALT1: ~~... that Peter Merseburger refused to host a 1974 edition of German political TV magazine Panorama after a report on abortion was cancelled by authorities?~~
Thanks for the review and rewording the hook. I'd like to keep Alice Schwarzer in, because she was really the name for feminism in Germany at the time (EMMA (magazine)), and now wrote a touching obit.

Alice Schwarzer c. 1977

ALT2: ... that Peter Merseburger refused to host a 1974 edition of German political TV magazine Panorama after a report by Alice Schwarzer (pictured) on an abortion was cancelled by authorities? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm working on the refs.

Mandarax miracle needed for the page move. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Done. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 09:19, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! - I fixed the refs, Sammi Brie. More content could/should be added especially based on the summary of 60 years, but I'm preoccupied with Prayer for Ukraine, - sorry about the unfinished state of this article when I noticed it getting overdue for nomination. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps we could use this contemporary image of Alice Schwarzer, in women's month? We sadly have nothing of Merseburger at the time. GRuban, crop perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:38, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Here are some crop options, including one of a different image from Commons but clearly from the same event:

Just cropped
Cropped tighter without bottle or podium
Cropped tighter and rotated
Different picture, elbow and bottle

--GRuban (talk) 14:28, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I think I'll take the first for the article, but think the second might be better for this nom. I added the "pictured" in the hook as nobody responded yet. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the explainer on why Schwarzer is so important to the intended hook. The proposed ALT2 is long enough and acceptable to me. As to the article itself, it reads better—except for the German block in Kohl's quote I'd prefer to be formatted more or at least directly translated, but that's not going to block me from approving this, as it's more of a formatting suggestion. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:54, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, very kind. I didn't translate the German, because it's colloquial and dialect, - an extra bonus to those who will almost hear him speak, but adding no information to that he wasn't willing to answer a question from someone from Panorama because that had "nothing to do with journalism". Formatting the image and striking the other hooks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

ALT2 to T:DYK/P1