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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:41, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

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Paki (slur)

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  • ... that "Paki" is considered the tenth most offensive expletive in the United Kingdom?

Created by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 03:05, 23 June 2015 (UTC).

  • The hook refers to research that was carried out 15 years ago and it is noted in the article that its perceived offence at that time had changed considerably from three years earlier, so I don't think that hook can be presented as a reliable statement (and it isn't an expletive anyway; you wouldn't shout "Paki! I hit my paki finger with the paki hammer!"); basically: new hook, please. Belle (talk) 11:49, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that although it is generally used as a racist slur towards them, some British Pakistanis are attempting to reclaim the word "Paki"?

No problems with length, age, refs, copyvio or plagiarism; QPQ done; ALT1 hook is fine and cited. I suppose this might have a bit of an uncomfortable time on the main page, but whatever (I've been called Paki myself; dark hair and a tan; obviously I must be from Pakistan; obviously). Belle (talk) 01:26, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

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Belle, in my view this nomination is an attempt to get the word "Paki" on the front page of Wikipedia. I think these previous nominations by TAD, all on notable topics I admit, should be considered before this nom is promoted.
Philafrenzy (talk) 21:05, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Woah, calm down mate. Matthew Goodwin writes about Nazism, is he endorsing it? You'd think in three years and 40,000 edits I'd have some blocks or something if I were up to no good. You're reading too much into it if you think the ridicule of Ed Miliband had anything to do with the religion his ancestors followed. '''tAD''' (talk) 09:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
And don't forget my other major sins:
To quote EE in the Muhammad Sex Simulator 2015 nom discussion, "Turns out the nominator's offensive, primitive, and inflammatory vandalism -- renaming Simple's Muhammed page "Camel raping paedophile cunt" (see link posted above by Philafrenzy) -- was not a one-time thing. Stimulated by his clueless and unapologetic response (also above) I looked again and stumbled onto this followup he made [3], inserting into that same article an image of a male anus penetrated by a sex toy, with the caption "Picture of Muhammad"." In the circumstances, I find it impossible to give you the benefit of the doubt. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
  • I have collapsed the above discussion because the motivation of an editor does not solely prevent an article from being promoted. The question about whether the Main Page should or should not be censored has panned out quite a few times, but feel free to raise the issue over at WT:DYK for a broader consensus over whether certain taboo subjects should be disqualified from DYK. Fuebaey (talk) 17:37, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Fine, but it's not really a question of censorship in my view, more a question of whether we are prepared to let the DYK process be gamed to get words that many continue to find very offensive on the front page in order to give the nominator some sort of kick. Philafrenzy (talk) 20:24, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
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