Template:Did you know nominations/Orelia Key Bell
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:04, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
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Orelia Key Bell
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Orelia Key Bell in 1895
... that Orelia Key Bell (pictured) published a collection of poems in 1895 dedicated to Ida Jane Ash, her "Heavenly Muse", and the two are now buried alongside each other at Oakland Cemetery in Atlanta?Source: this [1] for the dedica and the poem under Heavenly Muse section, this [2] and this [3] for the burials, and this [4] for the fact that Orelia and Ida lived together
Created by Elisa.rolle (talk). Self-nominated at 03:00, 10 September 2017 (UTC).
- ALT1: ... that in 1895 Orelia Key Bell (pictured) dedicated a collection of poems to her "Heavenly Muse" Ida Jane Ash, next to whom she is now buried in Atlanta? --Usernameunique (talk) 03:28, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- Usernameunique: just changed the wikilink to Oakland Cemetery (Atlanta), ALT1 is good for me. Elisa.rolle (talk) 09:00, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
- I will review, did minor copy-editing. - The passage "A poem by her father, "God is Love", was the key-note to some of her highest and sweetest songs. She suffered loss of home and property but met her reverses with a brave front and a song in her heart, and her spirit, strong in courage and purity, voiced itself in countless melodies that won for her both fame and money." is not today's encyclopedic language, so even if we may use the wording of the source, because it's public domain, we should mention time and author and mark it as a quote, or rephrase. - More soon. You know already what will come: more lead, infobox etc --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- I am sorry not to know what "select recitation" means. The following seems to be enough material for three sentences: "To the instructions of her friend, Sue Harper, wife of Livingston Mims, leader of the Christian Science movement in the South, and founder of the first Church of Christ (Scientist) in Georgia, Bell owed the inspiration of her most enduring work, the International Series of Christian Science Hymns, to the writing of which she gave much time." - Just a suggestion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:03, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Interesting life on good sources, no copyvio obvious. - Another suggestion: readers can tell an article is by you by the spaced references. Do you need that "stamp"? It sometimes makes for just on ref in a new line which looks awkward to me. - The second image caption tells us not much, - any date or circumstances known? - Hook: in ALT1, I am not fond of "next to whom", correct as it is. The easiest way to avoid it is to drop the half-sentence and rely on the attractiveness of the muse as a climax, not distracting readers by a graveyard (unless readers for the graveyard article is what you want)?- ALT2:
... that Orelia Key Bell (pictured) published a collection of poems in 1895 dedicated to Ida Jane Ash, her "Heavenly Muse"?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 11 September 2017 (UTC)- Gerda Arendt: actually yes, Gerda, I found most interesting the fact they decided to be buried next to each other after spending 53 years together... therefore I prefer to stick to ALT1 Elisa.rolle (talk) 15:10, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Fine, we found a hook. Please adjust the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt: article is good know Elisa.rolle (talk) 15:22, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt, Usernameunique we can make it more "romantic": ALT1a: ... that Orelia Key Bell (pictured) published a collection of poems in 1895 dedicated to her "Heavenly Muse" Ida Jane Ash, next to whom she now lies in Atlanta?
- or ALT1b:
... that Orelia Key Bell (pictured) dedicated a collection of poems in 1895 to her "Heavenly Muse" Ida Jane Ash, next to whom she now lies in Atlanta?- added some details and longer lead in the article. I think the only book she published is that of 1895. the two find-a-grave are different cause one is using a template, but the template works only for the subject of the article. I moved the image of the house down even if I'm not totally fine with that: the house is described in the previous section. But I can make an exception here. Elisa.rolle (talk) 15:48, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Well, I prefer ALT1. We recently had a discussion, "the dead are not resting", and we don't need more of the kind. The article is much improved, thank you! - Please think about moving the second image to next to the poem, which would make it possible to move the house down, to where education is mentioned. Another detail: the two find-a-grave look different. Could we have more lead? Mentioning Christian Science and the relationship? Could we have a few publications? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:35, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt: article is good know Elisa.rolle (talk) 15:22, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Fine, we found a hook. Please adjust the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
- Gerda Arendt: actually yes, Gerda, I found most interesting the fact they decided to be buried next to each other after spending 53 years together... therefore I prefer to stick to ALT1 Elisa.rolle (talk) 15:10, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
