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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 11:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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Olivia Jade Giannulli

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  • ALT1 ... that there has been a delay in the processing of the trademark for Olivia Jade due to "poor punctuation" on the application? [2] [3]

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 23:40, 14 March 2019 (UTC).

  • Date, size (bare minimum but passes), copyvio check, neutrality, hooks, pass. QPQ review needed. But I also have one more concern that would be best answered by a second reviewer. The article is borderline with regards to WP:BLP - most of the content is tabloid-level criticism of the subject. I am unsure if it is due weight to discuss such incidents including the one the hook is citing. And frankly, removing even one sentence from this article could make it not eligible as it will be too short. Not sure if we want this type of content for the front page. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:06, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
The article is currently at AfD; therefore no decision on DYK can be made until and unless it is kept. Daniel Case (talk) 04:11, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Outsider comment; courtesy ping to all parties as AFD is closed as keep and article has been further expanded. Review can be continued although the problem of recentism would need to be addressed per tag. Daniel Case, Piotrus, Chetsford. :) Adog (Talk・Cont) 15:29, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Since the article passed AfD (which I have not been aware of), this suggests it is at least notable. It also has been expanded. As for the tag about 'being slanted towards recent events', I am not sure it is justified - is there any coverage of her that's not about 'recent events'? I am inclined to change my vote to GTG unless counter-arguments are presented (please ping me if anyone wants to address me). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:59, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Regardless of notability or recentism issues, the hook seems to be a BLP case and personally I don't feel comfortable using it. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:40, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
@Chetsford: Would you be able to propose an alternate hook? I'm concerned that the current one falls afoul of BLP. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew
Sure, Narutolovehinata5. Alt proposed, above. Chetsford (talk) 22:30, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. @Piotrus: Thoughts on the new hook? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:07, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Ugh. Possible BLP issues... but I guess we can leave the choice of the hook to the closing admin, both are ok-ish, if we squint long enough... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:43, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Probably needs a new reviewer, this hasn't been touched in over a month. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:24, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to try to help out with hooks. Neither of the proposed hooks makes sense to people who don't know who she is. And the rest of the article has so many BLP issues that I'm not sure where to draw a hook from. Yoninah (talk) 10:55, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks - ALT 2 proposed, below. Chetsford (talk) 00:52, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
  • @Chetsford: why is that hooky? I really don't know who she is. Yoninah (talk) 00:59, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Understood - ALT 3 proposed, below. Chetsford (talk) 05:21, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Chetsford (talk) 05:21, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
  • - New enough, long enough, inline citations checks out. I let the closer chose hook. Good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 13:26, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT3 still sounds like a story about any old girl. Please add some context for who she is and why she's notable enough for Wikipedia. Yoninah (talk) 14:34, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
ALT3a ... that although though American social media personality Olivia Jade once said she "didn't really care about school", she eventually applied and was accepted to the University of Southern California?
@Yoninah: Is this okay enough? Or is a new hook needed? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:20, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Narutolovehinata5. Since she said this after applying to USC, I suggest writing it this way:
  • ALT3b: ... that while American social media celebrity Olivia Jade said "I don't really care about school", she applied and was accepted to the University of Southern California?
  • ALT3b hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per Piotrus. After a QPQ is submitted, this will be good to go. Yoninah (talk) 12:47, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Yoninah - thank you very much for your admirable patience with this nom and I apologize for my delayed response. I've now added a QPQ. Best - Chetsford (talk) 04:08, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you. QPQ done. Rest of review per BabbaQ. ALT3b good to go. Yoninah (talk) 11:55, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
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