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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:34, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

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Odyssey

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A 15th-century manuscript of the Odyssey, book I
A 15th-century manuscript of the Odyssey, book I
  • ... that the Odyssey topped a BBC Culture poll of experts to find literature's most enduring narrative?
Source:[1] Article: Odyssey (lede)
  • ALT1:... that the Odyssey (manuscript pictured) has been used as a school text since ancient Athens?
    Source: "By the time Constantine inaugurated his new capital on the Bosphorus, the Homeric poems had been schoolbooks for at least eight centuries, ever since Athenian schoolboys had learnt by heart the meaning of such obscure Homeric terms as ἀμενηνὰ κάρηνα and κόρνμβα."[2] Article: Odyssey#Textual tradition
  • ALT2:... that scholars are divided on whether the island kingdom of Ithaca in the Odyssey is the same Ithaca of modern day Greece?
    Source: "This is not to say that the travels of Odysseus in Never-Never Land can be retraced on a map. All attempts to do just that, and they have been numerous from ancient times on, have foundered. Even the topographical detail of Odysseus' home island of Ithaca can be shown to be a jumble, with several essential points appropriate to the neighboring isle of Leucas but quite impossible for Ithaca."[3] Article: Odyssey#Geography of the Odyssey.
  • Comment: I recently promoted the article on the Odyssey to GA, and it was suggested to me that some elements from the article might be a good DYK candidate. I'm very new to this, so if I have messed anything up, please let me know.

Created by Imaginestigers (talk) and Katolophyromai (talk). Nominated by Imaginestigers (talk) at 15:13, 12 October 2020 (UTC).

  • Newly promoted GA - plenty long, no issues. I would suggest a new ALT like ... that the Odyssey has been used as a school text since ancient Athens? as a bit flashier. I'm not sure the image is the best choice, as I'm finding it difficult to non-awkwardly refer to it in the hook. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:41, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Good change! Thanks Pi.1415926535. The image was a remnant from a previous hook -- you were right. I've changed it, with one which is generic enough that it can apply to any of the three (although it’s still perhaps a bit off). Imaginestigers (talk) 19:57, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Good to go with revised ALT1. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:11, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
    Can you please clarify for the prep builders which hook is to be taken, without expecting them to read all this? Safest is: strike all others, give it a number (ALT1a) and say you approved that one. The image will likely not be taken (they don't like manuscripts and music that you can't read, and I even understand), but IF taken, the clause in ALT1 is too long, - that's for the caption (which is even more too long). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
    • @Pi.1415926535: Is there anything else I should be doing here? I'm not quite sure how the process works (if I'm meant to be making changes or waiting for someone else). ImaginesTigers (talk) 19:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
      • @Gerda Arendt: I've struck the unused alts, and simplified the caption and clause in case the illuminated manuscript is visually interesting enough. Anything more needed? @ImaginesTigers: Sorry for the delay, and I don't think so. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:31, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
        Thank you, good! I see no reason to mention "book I" in the caption, and would rather say "Page from a 15th-century manuscript". Is it the beginning? Then perhaps "Beginning" instead of "Page". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:37, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
        @Gerda Arendt: and @Pi.1415926535:: I can confirm that it's the first page. ImaginesTigers (talk) 20:40, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Haynes, Natalie (May 22, 2018). "The greatest story ever told". BBC Culture. Retrieved October 12, 2020.
  2. ^ Browning, Robert (1992). "The Byzantines and Homer". In Lamberton, Robert; Keaney, John J. (eds.). Homer's Ancient Readers: The Hermeneutics of Greek Epic's Earliest Exegetes. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press. p. 134
  3. ^ Strabo, Geographica, 1.2.15, cited in Finley, Moses. 1976. The World of Odysseus (revised ed.). p. 33.
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