Template:Did you know nominations/New Romantics (song)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:19, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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New Romantics (song)
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... that the magazine Rolling Stone listed the song "New Romantics" by singer-songwriter Taylor Swift as one of the best songs of the 2010s decade?Source: "The 100 Best Songs of the 2010s". Rolling Stone. December 4, 2019.- ALT1:
... that the title of the song "New Romantics" by singer-songwriter Taylor Swift is a reference to the New Romantic cultural movement?Source: several, cited within article i.e. Slate and Rolling Stone
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- Comment: For a "bonus track" that received little coverage upon its parent album's release, its inclusion in Rolling Stone list of the best songs of the decade is quite an astonishing achievement.
Improved to Good Article status by HĐ (talk). Self-nominated at 02:34, 1 October 2020 (UTC).
- @HĐ: This is your first DYK nomination, correct? --TheSandDoctor Talk 02:57, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, I think so. For my past GAs the DYKs were often nominated by someone else, so this will be my first time if I remember correctly... HĐ (talk) 02:59, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- @HĐ: Awesome. Just wanted to be sure that we were good on DYK QPQ (<5 nominations doesn't need QPQ)
--TheSandDoctor Talk 03:40, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- @HĐ: Awesome. Just wanted to be sure that we were good on DYK QPQ (<5 nominations doesn't need QPQ)
Satisfies newness requirement (GA on 9/28) and length requirement. Article is well written and uses citations appropriately. Earwig detects no copyvio/plagiarism issues. Hook facts are interesting and short enough, though I recommend the primary hook, as the alt hook is not as strong IMO and is likely to divert many of the views to the article on the cultural movement. Primary hook fact confirmed with online sources. Source for alt1 hook won't let me view without subscription (strange, since both are RS) but AGF is appropriate. QPQ not required per SandDoctor's discussion above. Cbl62 (talk) 06:04, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review Just out of curiosity... what does QPQ mean? I'm new here so I'm absolutely oblivious on these terms... HĐ (talk) 06:50, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- QPQ ("quid pro quo") is the obligation to review a hook when you nominate a hook, but as per the discussion above, you don't have to do that as you're still a DYK newbie. Cbl62 (talk) 06:56, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote ALT0, but it just reads like more kudos for Taylor Swift's career. If it really is a surprising fact, why don't you say so in the hook? Like:- ALT0a:
... that while some critics panned "New Romantics" by Taylor Swift, Rolling Stone named it one of the best songs of the 2010s decade?Yoninah (talk) 19:31, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, as I noted above, given the song's initial exclusion from the tracklist, its appearance on the list is quite astonishing... Still, if it needs something more interesting to emphasise, then I'd like to alter it to your suggestion, HĐ (talk) 02:44, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, HD. But you could also say any other contrasting fact in the hook. I don't see its exclusion from the tracklist, but if it was, you could use that as the first clause in the hook:
... that despite its initial exclusion from the tracklist ...
Yoninah (talk) 10:42, 11 October 2020 (UTC) Ping again @HĐ:. Yoninah (talk) 10:42, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, HD. But you could also say any other contrasting fact in the hook. I don't see its exclusion from the tracklist, but if it was, you could use that as the first clause in the hook:
alt0a is also supported by in-line citations such that it passes as well. Both alt 0 and alt0a are approved. I leave it up to the queue creator to decide which is preferable. Cbl62 (talk) 19:39, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- @HĐ: So you want to go with this wording?
- ALT1: ... that despite being excluded from the standard edition of 1989, "New Romantics" by Taylor Swift was named one of the best songs of the 2010s decade by Rolling Stone? Yoninah (talk) 13:50, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- QPQ ("quid pro quo") is the obligation to review a hook when you nominate a hook, but as per the discussion above, you don't have to do that as you're still a DYK newbie. Cbl62 (talk) 06:56, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- In-line citation confirms it was excluded from the standard edition of the album (limited to a deluxe edition), so alt1 meets our standards. Cbl62 (talk) 00:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
