Template:Did you know nominations/Neo-Slavism
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 10:35, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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Neo-Slavism
[edit]* ... that shortly before First World War, Neo-Slavism advocated the creation of Slavic federation or state?
- Alt1 ... that shortly before the First World War, Neo-Slavism advocated the creation of a federation of Slavic states?
- Reviewed: Kardiasperma
Created by Piotrus (talk). Self nominated at 03:42, 24 September 2013 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, has citations, hook is cited and accepted AGF, ready to go. I prefer Alt1. Moonraker (talk) 05:12, 24 September 2013 (UTC)- Unfortunately, while I respect Piotrus as an editor and value greatly his work, in this case the hook is incorrect (I created the article about Neoslavism on Polish wiki a couple of years ago, hence my interest). Neoslavism was opposed to creation of single Slavic state. Perhaps a change to "democratic community of Slavic nations" would be better?
--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 21:26, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching that; it seems like a reasonable correction. I approve of ALT1, through we will need the reviewer tlook at this again, so I'll ping User:Moonraker. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:28, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- Well, Yes, to be frank it was I who added Alt1 before approving it. The sources were offline, but I felt sure that both the Poles and the Czechs must have been opposed to trying to create a single Slav state, so I thought we might have a translation problem. I rather suspect "democratic community of Slavic nations" is about right. I wonder, could one of you add a citation which actually quotes at the end of it the words used by the offline source? I prefer English but can live with Polish. Moonraker (talk) 22:20, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
- Majority of sources are online and accessible through Google Books (if it doesn't work in your country, use a proxy set for US). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:37, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Since reviewers may not approve their own hooks, someone else needs to approve ALT1, or a new ALT that uses the "democratic community of Slavic nations" wording. I've struck the original hook as incorrect. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:21, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
Given that the wording of the hook is controversial, it would be appropriate to add a quotation from refs 8, 11, or 12. Otherwise, its content might be treated (by me or by anyone else) as original research. As a sidenote, I don't see the hook explicitly appearing in the article.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:13, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
- @User:Jetstreamer. Fair enough, the federation claim wasn't that well referenced. I added more refs and quotes. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:44, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding references. I now see the quotation in ref number 14 as a paraphrasing of the hook. The only comment I have is that there are five references supporting a single sentence, which falls under WP:CITEKILL, but that can be improved later with an expansion. We're done with this. Good to go.--Jetstreamer Talk 10:48, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
- @User:Jetstreamer. Fair enough, the federation claim wasn't that well referenced. I added more refs and quotes. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:44, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
