Template:Did you know nominations/Natasha Baker

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 15:14, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Natasha Baker

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... that para-equestrian Natasha Baker, a double gold medallist at the 2012 Summer Paralympics, trains her horses to respond to her voice as she lacks the strength in her legs needed to control them?

Reviewed: West Germany at the 1976 Winter Paralympics

Created/expanded by Basement12 (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

- Created today, adequate length, hook is interesting, accurate, and properly cited. Homunculus (duihua) 21:40, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
- Seems to me that the hook would be punchier and more to the point if it simply said: ALT1 - ... that para-equestrian Natasha Baker, a double gold medallist at the 2012 Summer Paralympics, trains her horses to respond to her voice? Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 17:41, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

I considered something similar but wasn't sure if anyone would deem that particularly unusual? - Basement12 (T.C) 18:44, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

It was my understanding that her controlling the horses with her voice was unique given her inability to use her legs. Every horse-riding I know uses their legs the majority of the time when guiding the horse. I mean I'm no expert but the highlight of this hook is either: 'She's found a unique way to control her horses in spite of her handicap' or 'The lady has no leg-muscles'. Second one seems a little unfair. Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 13:21, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you Panyd, the hook is about her unusual method of control. My initial thinking was that pointing out why it's unusual might make the hook more meaningful to those who don't have the background knowledge and may think it normal. Either the original or the Alt would be fine with me - Basement12 (T.C) 16:16, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Comment: To me, personally, the lack of leg strength makes it much more interesting. How about this?

ALT2: ... that para-equestrian Natasha Baker, a double gold medallist at the 2012 Summer Paralympics, controls horses with her voice, since she lacks the leg strength to do so?

Rnickel (talk) 13:30, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Anything happening with this nom here? How about this?

ALT3 ... that Natasha Baker "talked" her horse Cabral through the competition, earned two gold medals and set two Paralympic records in equestrian at the 2012 Summer Paralympics?

Too chatty, maybe? --PFHLai (talk) 16:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps a slight reordering of the above would connect it up better? How about:

ALT4: ... that Natasha Baker "talked" her horse Cabral through the equestrian competition at the 2012 Paralympics, earning two gold medals and setting two Paralympic records?

I'll see whether Basement12 has any thoughts on these new ALTs. —BlueMoonset (talk) 15:57, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

All the ALT options seem to get the point across but for what it's worth my suggestion would be

ALT5: ... that double 2012 Paralympic gold medallist Natasha Baker "talked" her horse Cabral through the equestrian competition? - Basement12 (T.C) 16:15, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Why is talked in scare quotes/direct quotes? It's not directly quoted in the article. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:31, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

One more go at influencing the consensus-- I think the interesting nugget here is, she can ride a horse, and even win medals, with a disability that would seem to make it impossible. Lots of people train animals to respond to voice commands, so I don't think focusing on that makes for a particularly interesting hook. If we're looking for punchiness, how about this?

ALT6: ... that Natasha Baker rode her horse Cabral to two gold medals in the 2012 Paralympics even though she has no feeling in her legs?

--Rnickel (talk) 15:57, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

ALT6 only. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:10, 13 October 2012 (UTC)